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Exactly now you are getting it.
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I was just trying to think of someone quick, and I don't know a lot about that era (before I was born ). Actually my first thought was Hank Stram but that would be way off since he won one. I figured Grant would be a decent comparison since he got to an SB.
Why? As much as Jet fans want to make it seem like they did, Ryan did not get to a SB/ That was my point you can pick a successful comparison. At this point Ryan hasnt reached Wade Phillips or Lovie Smith level.
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Why? As much as Jet fans want to make it seem like they did, Ryan did not get to a SB/ That was my point you can pick a successful comparison. At this point Ryan hasnt reached Wade Phillips or Lovie Smith level.
Jeez people! Look, I was trying to make a comparison. When I thought of Lombardi, I tried to think of guys who had success in the years right after Lombardi won his last championship. The only two guys that came to mind were Hank Stram and Bud Grant. I don't know a lot about that era so I couldn't tell you who who the coaches were that lost the AFL and NFL championship games in their first season as HC within five years after Lombardi won Super Bowl II.
Tell you what, in the future before making any reference to league history I will consult the NFL Total Football book to make sure everything is 100% exact. Sheesh.
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Jeez people! Look, I was trying to make a comparison. When I thought of Lombardi, I tried to think of guys who had success in the years right after Lombardi won his last championship. The only two guys that came to mind were Hank Stram and Bud Grant. I don't know a lot about that era so I couldn't tell you who who the coaches were that lost the AFL and NFL championship games in their first season as HC within five years after Lombardi won Super Bowl II.
Tell you what, in the future before making any reference to league history I will consult the NFL Total Football book to make sure everything is 100% exact. Sheesh.
Relax. The entire point was that Ryan has accomplished nothing yet, and I was just pointing out that you were comparing him to a guy who was very successful. Your response that Grant made it to a SB implied, still, that Ryan was being given credit for accomplishing something.
I'm not trying to give you a hard time, just saying we are talking about a 7-7 coach who was given a gift playoff spot, and your response that you choose Grant as a comparison because at least he made a SB, struck a cord as overrated Ryan again.
Fat boy is on Manginas level, they both did well their first year i think Mangina was 10-6 and Fat Boy lucked into the play offs were no one took the rats seriously. So where is mangina ranked?
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Because it's a ranking based upon feedback from the fans.
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"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."
- Marcus Aurelius
Because it's a ranking based upon feedback from the fans.
see this is what I dont get. Who the hell cares what it is claimed to be based on. ESPN did the poll and ESPN gets the hits from the poll they knew what they were doing and manipulated the line of questions, the smaple used, and/or the actual responses to get what they wanted.
I could do a poll with monkeys and still get the results I want.
Have the monkey stand on one side of the room.....bring in two boxes one labled A and one B...........ask him a series of questions and them ask him to answer by chosing either box A or B.
Who is a better coach A rex or B Bill? Ans A
Who is the better team A the Jets or B Pats? ans A
Who has the better QB A the Jets or B the Pats? Ans A
oh by the way I put a Banana under box A.
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Re: ESPN Mag says Ryan is better than BB
). Actually my first thought was Hank Stram but that would be way off since he won one. I figured Grant would be a decent comparison since he got to an SB.
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