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Old 06-21-2010, 11:35 AM   #41
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I don't buy that Crable has had anything but very minor injuries that he could have played through.

The fact that they've stashed him on the IR for two years hopefully means that BB still has big plans for him in the defense. Also could explain BB's passing on a very obvious need in the last two drafts. Crable could surprise a lot of people, after having two years to bulk up and learn the Patriots' defensive schemes to a T.

Cunningham will not be ready this year, Woods is the new Eric Alexander and Ninkovich will probably be cut. Prediction: Burgess and Crable (or maybe Spikes by week 5) are your starting OLBs in the 3-4. Add TBC and Guyton to mix and Belichick may be cooking up some real wacky defensive looks this year, including lot of 1-5-5. (Seems he hasn't placed a lot of value on 3-4 DEs the last two years either).
I don't expect Crable to make the team unless he does so via special teams.
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:02 PM   #42
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I don't expect Crable to make the team unless he does so via special teams.
Probably wishful thinking on my part, but I don't buy that Crable is just a injury-prone wuss who is in love with the tub. BB made the choice to keep him out for two seasons when we were hurting for OLB depth.

This year we might see a really hungry player who also happens to have a lot of innate ability to rush the passer. I doubt BB drafted Crable to be a pass rush specialist only. Mike Woichick didn't get his rep for nothing.
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Again, not having one of the original six is an issue far and away dwarfed by having Welker for six weeks.
Even if Welker is on the roster for opening day (which the Pats could do because of the advantage of having him practicce in training camp), it does not mean he will play 20 games, from opening day to the superbowl.

You severely underestimating the recovery of an MCL/ACl to think he can start at slot WR and play his game, every game, all year long.

Missing the first six games is a small price to pay compared to missing the playoffs because the knee is sore. Good knees wear done during the course of the season. COnsider a partially healed ACL.

We'll see opening week. It is simply what I think vs what you think. COntrary to your ego, it isn't my ignoring you and BB.

Remember. Patrick Pass got cut and no one, NO ONE, signed him. You were wrong about what BB thought then. Consider that maybe, jsut maybe, you are clueless about what BB is going to do this time. Consider that BB himself doesn't know yet.

Then have about 50 pounds of ego surgically removed from your cranium. Your neck won't be so bent out of shape as often.
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You severely underestimating the recovery of an MCL/ACl to think he can start at slot WR and play his game, every game, all year long.


The truth may be that we imagined the injury to be far worse than it actually was. Did the Pats confirm that it was an ACL injury, a complete tear or a partial tear? The fact is they never confirmed anything.

As hard as it is to understand, the rest of us really can only make educated guess, and mine is that he will see action in game 1.
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He couldn't have shown anything because he was on IR. Going on IR means you are injured not that you are no good.
The bar set by Woods is quite low. We can all argue whether a guy who gets injured is a poor draft pick, but Crable was drafted in the 3rd round, which indicates those doing the drafting felt he had skills. If he does have the skills of a 3rd round pick and stays healthy he will be a better player than Woods. That may or may not happen, but whehter he has shown it yet is not relevant.
The Crab went on IR two years in a row and has not only never played a down in regular season but has missed considerable pre-season action as well. It's quite unlikely he was simply 'stashed' on IR given the lack of stellar contributors at OLB and pass rusher. This indicates that the 3rd rounder has "issues" with durability. Most 3rd rounders never start in the NFL and many never make it. Therefore I continue to find it interesting that many here project The Crab to make the 53 at Woods' (a fine ST player, though a stump at OLB) expense.
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I predict that Tory Holt and Fred Taylor wil be cut at the last cutdown; then resigned in week two when a couple of youngsters are cut and go to the Practice Squad.
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I predict that Tory Holt and Fred Taylor wil be cut at the last cutdown; then resigned in week two when a couple of youngsters are cut and go to the Practice Squad.
I'd say OR, but based on past strategic moves, those are decent possibilities. In recent years, BB only got burned when he cut young prospects who were quickly scooped up by other teams.
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What is point of your strategy? The kids are just a likely to be picked up by anothers team after Game 1 as before it.

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He's running around, punting footballs, and generally participating in practice. In June. Why you would want to keep a Pro Bowl player out until late October is beyond me.

It looks like it's not beyond, Reiss, though.
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Gerard Warren, by all accounts, has been starting in minicamp.

Bah. If that lazy old blob is starting vs. Cinci, then we're in trouble.

I agree with you on Ingram. Every year there's someone out there who calls the LS, even if the Patriots have a very good one, a wasted roster spot, because "there's someone else on the team who can long snap." Well, it never happens. There are currently only one or two teams that do not have a full-time long snapper.
Yeah, I think Breer might want to have that one back.
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Slater in for a roster fight - Extra Points - Boston.com

Usually in order to be a lock for a position on this team, you have to have an actual locked down position (not to be a starter, mind you) on top of being versatile. Slater can be versatile all he wants, but he's probably not going to win the returner's job anytime soon. On top of that, he doesn't have a natural position on offense or defense, as this article does a good job of highlighting.

I'm not saying that it's a lock that Slater is going to get cut. But Slater is the most vulnerable of all the special teamers we have. Arrington and Aiken, IMO, are the only two "locks" to make the team because of what they bring to special teams.
I didnt say Slater was a lock. I said Arrington is the one s/ter IMO that stands out as special. The rest are IMO interchangable.
Slater could have a leg up, because if you are picking a special teamer for the 53rd spot, having one that can play both offense and defense is an advantage. We are talking about a special teamer who will only play in an emegency, and if you can play both sides of the ball in an emergency you have a SLIGHT advantage.
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