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Old 06-02-2010, 06:47 AM   #11
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IIRC, when Heath Evans was here in Foxboro he had thought about bringing the Dunkin' to Alabama (where they have/had zero franchises).
Is 'bama Krispy Kreme territory?
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:43 AM   #12
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That's the funny thing. Most New Englanders don't consider DD to be a bastion of fatty foods, even though it probably is.

Outside of the Northeast, DD for some reason has a reputation based on its doughnuts. (Maybe its name helps?) But in New England, DD is known far and away for its coffee and other drinks. People are there easily every day and it certainly does not have a reputation like a McDonald's in terms of its unhealthy foods.

There are also very few, if any, Krispy Kreme's in the New England area. Which is strange, because people don't usually go to DD for doughnuts, rather coffee, so there would seem to be still a niche market.
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That's the funny thing. Most New Englanders don't consider DD to be a bastion of fatty foods, even though it probably is.

Outside of the Northeast, DD for some reason has a reputation based on its doughnuts. (Maybe its name helps?) But in New England, DD is known far and away for its coffee and other drinks. People are there easily every day and it certainly does not have a reputation like a McDonald's in terms of its unhealthy foods.

There are also very few, if any, Krispy Kreme's in the New England area. Which is strange, because people don't usually go to DD for doughnuts, rather coffee, so there would seem to be still a niche market.
Personally, I think DD's standard cup of coffee is a lot better (and cheaper) than what Ripoffyourbucks serves. In NYC, the donuts definitely came first in the brand identity, but they've pumped up the image of the coffee so they are now equal.
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Personally, I think DD's standard cup of coffee is a lot better (and cheaper) than what Ripoffyourbucks serves. In NYC, the donuts definitely came first in the brand identity, but they've pumped up the image of the coffee so they are now equal.
Which is why you don't see very many Starbucks in the New England area. That was DD's main competition, not a Krispy Kreme, which is what people in the rest of the country seem to see it as.
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That's the funny thing. Most New Englanders don't consider DD to be a bastion of fatty foods, even though it probably is.

Outside of the Northeast, DD for some reason has a reputation based on its doughnuts. (Maybe its name helps?) But in New England, DD is known far and away for its coffee and other drinks. People are there easily every day and it certainly does not have a reputation like a McDonald's in terms of its unhealthy foods.

There are also very few, if any, Krispy Kreme's in the New England area. Which is strange, because people don't usually go to DD for doughnuts, rather coffee, so there would seem to be still a niche market.
Didn't Krispy Kreme come to Mass. a few years ago? They didn't see themselves in competition w/ DD because of the reasons you stated: DD is for coffee, KK is for donuts (a wonderful gastronomic experience, btw).

Pioli opening up a DD in KC? Genius. In that region of the country, a salad is a wedge of iceberg lettuce with bleu cheese and bacon bits. God love 'em!
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Didn't Krispy Kreme come to Mass. a few years ago? They didn't see themselves in competition w/ DD because of the reasons you stated: DD is for coffee, KK is for donuts (a wonderful gastronomic experience, btw).

Pioli opening up a DD in KC? Genius. In that region of the country, a salad is a wedge of iceberg lettuce with bleu cheese and bacon bits. God love 'em!
Yes, but I think they closed down after a few years. Apparently New Englanders don't have a taste for hot glazed doughnuts...
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There are only a couple down in Virginia Beach, where I lived for 20+ years. Down there it's Starbucks and Krispy Kreme. Dunkin Donuts in NE is like Tim Hortons in Canada; they're everywhere, and I like them both for different things.

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There aren't any Tim Horton's in the Boston area. There's a bunch in the Providence area, but literally zero around Boston.
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Krispy Kreme shut down not only its NE locations, but its locations in Canada, the midwest, and even a lot of the deep south due to aggressive over-expansion. It's really the most popular (and ingrained) in the southeastern states like Georgia, the Carolinas, and southern Virginia. Having grown up in southern VA, and living near one of the oldest Krispy Kremes, I always loved their doughnuts, but I will admit that their coffee leaves me nonplussed.

I'm also surprised there are no Tim Hortons in the Boston area. I thought there used to be one or two. I know there are Tims in Rhode Island, here in Connecticut, and up in Maine (of course).
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Krispy Kreme shut down not only its NE locations, but its locations in Canada, the midwest, and even a lot of the deep south due to aggressive over-expansion. It's really the most popular (and ingrained) in the southeastern states like Georgia, the Carolinas, and southern Virginia. Having grown up in southern VA, and living near one of the oldest Krispy Kremes, I always loved their doughnuts, but I will admit that their coffee leaves me nonplussed.

I'm also surprised there are no Tim Hortons in the Boston area. I thought there used to be one or two. I know there are Tims in Rhode Island, here in Connecticut, and up in Maine (of course).
Yeah, KKreme is a case study in bad growth. But I agree with you on their donuts...MMM MMM. And, I will observe that you are no doubt one of the very few denizens of a Krispy Kreme establishment even to know what "nonplussed" means let alone use it correctly in a sentence about the company's product line!
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Krispy Kreme shut down not only its NE locations, but its locations in Canada, the midwest, and even a lot of the deep south due to aggressive over-expansion. It's really the most popular (and ingrained) in the southeastern states like Georgia, the Carolinas, and southern Virginia. Having grown up in southern VA, and living near one of the oldest Krispy Kremes, I always loved their doughnuts, but I will admit that their coffee leaves me nonplussed.

I'm also surprised there are no Tim Hortons in the Boston area. I thought there used to be one or two. I know there are Tims in Rhode Island, here in Connecticut, and up in Maine (of course).
Krispy Kreme is also struggling in areas of the south. In the areas of Florida where I lived, most people I talked with felt that the company's donuts had been overrated by word of mouth, and that the taste fell far short of expectations.
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