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Old 04-23-2010, 10:43 PM   #1
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Default Pats still need someone who can rush the passer

Day two was much better than day one, but the Pat's still don't have anyone anyone who can rush the passer. This fact makes me hate that first round pick (like the player, but not the pick/position) even more.

If I were the Pat's I would be doing my best to move one of their picks (not the first rounders) for an impact pass rusher.

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Old 04-23-2010, 10:46 PM   #2
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My thought is only 2 rookies out of 300+ actually rush the passer well from the OLB position. The pash rush needs to come from Crable or someone else needs to step up, Cunningham is the developmental OLB.
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Day two was much better than day one, but the Pat's still don't have anyone anyone who can rush the passer. This fact makes me hate that first round pick (like the player, but not the pick/position) even more.

If I were the Pat's I would be doing my best to move one of their picks (not the first rounders) for an impact pass rusher.

Any thoughts?
For the most part, pass rush comes from scheme not individual talent. (Contrary to popular belief) That is why the best pass rushing teams usually have numerous players contributing to the sack totals and the team with 'great sack guys' don't do so well as a team.

My opinion is that we have assembled players we can put on the field that have pass rush skills (Warren, Wright, TBC, Crable, Cunningham, Ninkovich, etc) and improved coverage as well as the overall play of the defense to put us in more situations where we can scheme pressure instead of being in 2nd and 6 and 3rd and 3 with a secondary that cant cover.
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Cunningham wasn't bad at getting into the backfield when he was at Florida. This is a very underrated pick, IMO.
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For the most part, pass rush comes from scheme not individual talent. (Contrary to popular belief) That is why the best pass rushing teams usually have numerous players contributing to the sack totals and the team with 'great sack guys' don't do so well as a team.
I agree. Look at the 2005 Ravens defensive philosophy/playbook, it's online. One of the key pages about pass rush says it's all about switching things up, bringing pressure from different angles, bringing confusion. It even mentions pretending to blitz pre-snap and then dropping back. We haven't done any of those things in a long time. We may have blitzed a lot statistically, but never in a confusing way which is why even bad QB's were able to pick us apart before.

Besides, I think Adalius is going to have a huge year this year after sliding back to his natural position at outside linebacker, and with Belichick as the coordinator.
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I agree. Look at the 2005 Ravens defensive philosophy/playbook, it's online. One of the key pages about pass rush says it's all about switching things up, bringing pressure from different angles, bringing confusion. It even mentions pretending to blitz pre-snap and then dropping back. We haven't done any of those things in a long time. We may have blitzed a lot statistically, but never in a confusing way which is why even bad QB's were able to pick us apart before.

Besides, I think Adalius is going to have a huge year this year after sliding back to his natural position at outside linebacker, and with Belichick as the coordinator.
What team is Adalius going to have a big year for? The Alouettes?
He has worn out his welcome and his skills have deteriorated.
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For the most part, pass rush comes from scheme not individual talent. (Contrary to popular belief) That is why the best pass rushing teams usually have numerous players contributing to the sack totals and the team with 'great sack guys' don't do so well as a team.

My opinion is that we have assembled players we can put on the field that have pass rush skills (Warren, Wright, TBC, Crable, Cunningham, Ninkovich, etc) and improved coverage as well as the overall play of the defense to put us in more situations where we can scheme pressure instead of being in 2nd and 6 and 3rd and 3 with a secondary that cant cover.

scheme can manufacture pass rush, but players make plays. lets hope the next Lawrence Taylor comes out next year and we have the #2 pick. thats all ill say
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What team is Adalius going to have a big year for? The Alouettes?
He has worn out his welcome and his skills have deteriorated.
I'm not so sure about that.
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I just looked at the roster. We certainly have room for one front seven guy or two.
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What team is Adalius going to have a big year for? The Alouettes?
Nope...my $ says he plays for the New England Patriots

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He has worn out his welcome and his skills have deteriorated.
yes and no. Yes, he wore out his welcome. But it may be in both sides best interest if they make amens. His skills have not deteriorated. Probably still one of the best athletes out of all the LB's (including from today).
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