Mark Morse

I think the Colts should lose a draft choice for making a deal with an agent that was not the official representative of a free agent player. Further, the League should suspend the agent for illegal practices.

Unfortunately Adam Vinatieri comes out of this with a new contarct but has his integrity tarnished.

Curious that Vinatieri doesn't want to talk about the negotiations - because they were illegal!!!


The Patriots will get nothing from this.

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workhorse

I'm sure you want to penalize the Colts, but that's just because they are the Colts. Has anyone noticed that they haven't officially anounced that there is a deal in place? I'm sure that is so they are in the clear with the agent change time period.

JR4

Since the NFL can apparently suspend agents it must have some authority
over agent conduct.
This activity seems very wrong.
If it is allowed then consider the following.

Player has officially Agent A but contacts Agents B and C and lets it be know
that if they get a better deal the player will dump the current agent go with
the agent that gets the better deal.

This is wrong and not ethical. This is essentially what can be argued here.
How much fault is on the team is not known. But if collusion can be proven
between the new agent and the Colts this could be a mess.

workhorse

I've never seen an organization get penalized for an agent rules infracation.

DaBruinz

Workhorse -
It doesn't matter that they haven't signed the deal yet. What matters is the fact remains that Gary Uberstine's office is who called the Colts regarding Adam's availability last week. PRIOR to Adam even visiting Green Bay. And prior to Adam officially firing Cornich's office.

I think that Cornich's office would actually have legal right to go after both Uberstine's office AND Adam himself because of this. Also, there is a good chance that Uberstine's office could be suspended the way that Carl Poston was suspended.

This smacks of unethical business practices.

workhorse

You aren't stating anything I don't agree with. But it is all on the agent, not the Colts.

DaBruinz

Actually, it is also on the Colts because they would have known that Uberstine wasn't Vinatieri's agent at the time Uberstine contacted them. They should have told Uberstine to contact them when he represented Vinatieri, not before.

Any deal that they negotiated in was done in bad faith since they purposely were circumventing the rules on when an agent could represent a player in those negotiations.

FreeTedWilliams

Actually it is the NFLPA (the player's union) that has the ability to suspend/ban agents. So don't look for them to mess with the highest ever kicker contract.

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JR4

Of course the Colts would contend what do they gain from talking to
one agent vs another and that to them it made no difference.

But I think there could be a reason why Colts wanted Uberstine instead of
Cornich.
Suppose Colts knew with Cornich that any offer they made would have a
chance to be matched by the Patriots.
So Colts contact Uberstine and say will work with him but there can be no
allowing PATs to match their offer.
Uberstine agrees and then contacts Adam and lays it out.

It just seem strange that Uberstine would on his own go out and contact the
Colts when he wasn't even Adams agent not even knowing that Adam
would drop Cornich if he got the deal.
Something really smells here.

workhorse

There would be no advantage to an agent to not let another team try to match or better an offer. Agents work off of a percentage of a contract and it's in their best interest to get teams into a bidding war. So it would make no sense for him not to go to the Pats after the Colts made an offer.