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Old 03-22-2006, 02:31 AM   #1
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Anyone using derogatory language against Adam Vinatieri should be sentenced to 5-years as a Cardinals, Lions or Buccaneers fan. Sure, free speech is great and Dr.Phil says confronting the problem is great.
Problem is...IMO...YOU...you and your selfish desires to control the life of someone who wouldn't know you if he passed you on the street.

One of the premier players in New England history...in all 4 major sports...makes a personal decision and gets kicked in the butt for it.

A player who always worked hard, supported his teamates, supported the orginization and never acted in any way that brought shame to the team.

Of all the unknowns in the draft each year you are lucky to get a player like this...we didn't...he came in as a free agent and left with an impeccable resume.

Vinatieri...as I have been saying since Belichick did not resign him is "all about the money"..."JUST A KICKER WHO IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY". So he happens to be one of the all time greats in the NFL>>>

Why is being great equated with loyalty? i'M SORRY...BUT I HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY GREATNESS IS ASSOCIATED WITH LOYALTY...

Thanks Adam for helping us enjoy 3 SB championships.
Thanks Adam for sparing us the anguish of losing the Super Bowl.
Thanks Adam for 10 years of no journeymen kickers and hackers.
Thanks Adam for the celebrations...I don't recall you being hated then.
Thanks Adam for knowing you owe us nothing, it's your life...not ours.
Hope you enjoy kicking for the Colts...change makes the NFL better.
As a longtime Celtics fan I know that change is for the better.


To all you 2-faced Patriots fans cursing Adam today I have 1 question. Can Adam call you names when you leave your job for a better paying one with new adventures?

I've never been so disgusted seeing even "SENIOR MEMBERS" slamming Adam Vinatieri's reputation...kicking him like useless refuse. Sorry, it's not right and he doesn't deserve it at all.

But, it's your right to praise or slam as you please...If I was Adam I would be considering a field goal rebate right about now...maybe he can take back any 5 kicks he chooses...turnabout is fair play after all.
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Old 03-22-2006, 02:35 AM   #2
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Well said, FBN. How quickly some forget.
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AV has to do what he has to do. If the Colts deal is done, it's done - and nothing but good wishes to him, McGinnest, and Givens (unless they're playing the Pats, of course.)

These guys play for different reasons than we watch them. They're playing for money, but also glory and fun, with teammates - we watch them because we're from NE, or we just picked NE as "our" team. We'll never change teams, but then, the team doesn't pay us. We pay them.

What it comes down to in the era of free agency is, you're rooting for uniforms. The Pats are a perfect model, because Pats fans have actually bought into talk of their management, and business model, and coaching. What we've started doing is identifying with management and ownership, as much as the players. This is the only valid response to a constantly revolving player pool.

Either way, as someone once put it, we're now "rooting for laundry."

Well F it, our laundry is the best.

AV, David Givens, Willie Mac, we loved you, and thank you for the moments. That said, don't look forward too much to playing against your former teammates.

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F.B.N.:

Screw Adam Vinatieri.

I'll disparage any Indianapolis Colt I want to.
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F.B.N -
Its all about perception. See, Adam comes across as two-faced when he says that he wants to stay with the Patriots right after the season, but then sits on his rear end for another two weeks before getting a new agent. Then he does an interview in Florida where he talks about the Pats in the past tense. THEN 4 weeks later, he fires that agent and supposedly, on the same day, signs with the Colts.

We don't know what the Patriots offered him. Its possible, but highly unlikely, that they offered him a contract with no guaranteed money. Its unlikely that we will ever know. What we do know is that Adam is all about the money. And his signing with our current arch-rivals leaves a bitter taste in people's mouths.

I don't hate Adam. I don't know if I lump him in with some of the greatest of all time. He's definitely a clutch field goal kicker, but kicking FGs is only part of the job. There were a lot of great kickers. Especially Morten Andersen.

I think that the Pats will survive and move on. Its not the end of the world. And I believe that we can get a kicker who hits 79-80% of his FG attempts as well as has a 64-68 YPK average on kick-offs.
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I am not sure AV's decision was all about the money. There is something to be said for kicking in a dome. This decision may prolong his career.

AV is an icon in NE. It is unfortunate he will not retire a Patriot.
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Anyone using derogatory language against Adam Vinatieri should be sentenced to 5-years as a Cardinals, Lions or Buccaneers fan. Sure, free speech is great and Dr.Phil says confronting the problem is great.
Problem is...IMO...YOU...you and your selfish desires to control the life of someone who wouldn't know you if he passed you on the street.

One of the premier players in New England history...in all 4 major sports...makes a personal decision and gets kicked in the butt for it.

A player who always worked hard, supported his teamates, supported the orginization and never acted in any way that brought shame to the team.

Of all the unknowns in the draft each year you are lucky to get a player like this...we didn't...he came in as a free agent and left with an impeccable resume.

Vinatieri...as I have been saying since Belichick did not resign him is "all about the money"..."JUST A KICKER WHO IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY". So he happens to be one of the all time greats in the NFL>>>

Why is being great equated with loyalty? i'M SORRY...BUT I HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY GREATNESS IS ASSOCIATED WITH LOYALTY...

Thanks Adam for helping us enjoy 3 SB championships.
Thanks Adam for sparing us the anguish of losing the Super Bowl.
Thanks Adam for 10 years of no journeymen kickers and hackers.
Thanks Adam for the celebrations...I don't recall you being hated then.
Thanks Adam for knowing you owe us nothing, it's your life...not ours.
Hope you enjoy kicking for the Colts...change makes the NFL better.
As a longtime Celtics fan I know that change is for the better.


To all you 2-faced Patriots fans cursing Adam today I have 1 question. Can Adam call you names when you leave your job for a better paying one with new adventures?

I've never been so disgusted seeing even "SENIOR MEMBERS" slamming Adam Vinatieri's reputation...kicking him like useless refuse. Sorry, it's not right and he doesn't deserve it at all.

But, it's your right to praise or slam as you please...If I was Adam I would be considering a field goal rebate right about now...maybe he can take back any 5 kicks he chooses...turnabout is fair play after all.

I am ashamed to hear anyone trash this guy.

You are right on here.
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Well I'm not disgusted so much as I'm a bit surprised at the level of vitriol I'm seeing for Adam here.

If he's getting this kind of treatment after all the years he played for us and all he did for us, I'll consider myself lucky this board wasn't around when Curtis cut out for the Jets. There would have been some serious scorched earth around here.

I'm sad to see him go but I'll be damned if I'm going to hold it against him that he left, or even who he signed with. Unfortunately this is part of the modern NFL landscape.
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Yes! great post, and part of the minority here right now. Some people need to remember, Brady at this point makes in one year what Adam has made in his ENTIRE career practically. Also commercials and endorsement are in the low $100,000, not millions for him. He wanted to prolong his career and get as much $$$ now and last for as many years as he could. He has nothing more to prove to our team, and to his career. He does not want to kick out in the cold anymore, just leave him alone. Its not like he is the only kicker in the world who can kick FGs.
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Well I'm not disgusted so much as I'm a bit surprised at the level of vitriol I'm seeing for Adam here.

If he's getting this kind of treatment after all the years he played for us and all he did for us, I'll consider myself lucky this board wasn't around when Curtis cut out for the Jets. There would have been some serious scorched earth around here.

I'm sad to see him go but I'll be damned if I'm going to hold it against him that he left, or even who he signed with. Unfortunately this is part of the modern NFL landscape.
I'm upset too, but, rather than be p!ssed off at Vinatieri, I'd rather be more thankful for players like Bruschi. The way I see it, the jobs that Vinatieri might have had, had he stayed, are now Bruschi's (if he wants them).
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