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Old 03-03-2006, 03:29 PM   #1
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Felger has been saying for a while now, that we should overpay and keep him. Today, he provided a few facts.

Per Felger:

Games that AV misses directly cost us a game over past 5 years -

2005 - Denver 43 yarder - debateable, making the kick brings us within 8 points.

2004 - None

2003 - Week 4 at Washington, he missed a kick in a game we lost by 3 points.

2002 - None

2001 - None

AV in a dome on turf - career misses - None.

Tom Brady is 7-0 in overtime, AV has not missed in OT and won 6 out of 7 of those games (Troy Brown TD in Miami was the 7th)

AV = money, as in making field goals and as in what it will take to keep him. I still say that overpaing by as much as 500/M per year is relatively short money - keep AV, please.
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Old 03-03-2006, 03:37 PM   #2
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Felger has been saying for a while now, that we should overpay and keep him. Today, he provided a few facts.

Per Felger:

Games that AV misses directly cost us a game over past 5 years -

2005 - Denver 43 yarder - debateable, making the kick brings us within 8 points.

2004 - None

2003 - Week 4 at Washington, he missed a kick in a game we lost by 3 points.

2002 - None

2001 - None

AV in a dome on turf - career misses - None.

Tom Brady is 7-0 in overtime, AV has not missed in OT and won 6 out of 7 of those games (Troy Brown TD in Miami was the 7th)

AV = money, as in making field goals and as in what it will take to keep him. I still say that overpaing by as much as 500/M per year is relatively short money - keep AV, please.
I guess the answer is what you would consider overpaying. I don't like the list though. It suggests that if he missed a field goal, but we won, it doesn't count. Off the top of my head, in addition to the one's mentioned, he missed two in the Superbowl, two in the game against Houston that we won in overtime. Because the team overcame those misses doesn't make them irrelevant.
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Felger has been saying for a while now, that we should overpay and keep him. Today, he provided a few facts.

Per Felger:

Games that AV misses directly cost us a game over past 5 years -

2005 - Denver 43 yarder - debateable, making the kick brings us within 8 points.

2004 - None

2003 - Week 4 at Washington, he missed a kick in a game we lost by 3 points.

2002 - None

2001 - None

AV in a dome on turf - career misses - None.

Tom Brady is 7-0 in overtime, AV has not missed in OT and won 6 out of 7 of those games (Troy Brown TD in Miami was the 7th)

AV = money, as in making field goals and as in what it will take to keep him. I still say that overpaing by as much as 500/M per year is relatively short money - keep AV, please.
I want to keep AV, can't think of anyone i would rather have kicking for the Pats....but didn't he miss 2 dome kicks in SB 38?
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Right he missed 4 alltogether there
plus cost pats 2 wins in pete carroll last year here
Pete record would have been 10-6 last year here cost us going
to playofs.Then our history changes pete would not have been fired
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I want to keep AV, can't think of anyone i would rather have kicking for the Pats....but didn't he miss 2 dome kicks in SB 38?
One was blocked, but maybe he kicked it too low. SB 38 was in Houston; was the roof closed that day?

Sign Adam.
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One was blocked, but maybe he kicked it too low. SB 38 was in Houston; was the roof closed that day?

Sign Adam.

just give the man his money!
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I would be willing to pay Vinatieri up to $5 million per season. Our super bowl hopes hinge on whether or not he signs with us.
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Don't. Overpay. Anybody.
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Relax.
BB promised Adam he would not tag him again. He put a $2.5mm/yr multi-year deal on the table. So now Adam wants to test the waters. But he reads. He hears people like the Tuna say he'd be stoned to leave. He's not stupid.

He will go out and see what his value is on the open market. He will then weigh it against the offer by BB and all of the perks he has here. The offer keeps him as the highest paid kicker in the league, at least for now.

He hesitates, makes us nervous, then re-signs with the team.
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I want to keep AV, can't think of anyone i would rather have kicking for the Pats....but didn't he miss 2 dome kicks in SB 38?
Relaint Stadium is grass not turf.....Felger is tricky
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