JackBauer

Where do the tags on threads come from?

"op is a homo"

Priceless!

mgteich

1) Any evaluatioin should have metrics.
2) Criticism should compare evaluations of the pats with those of other teams.
3) If draft evaluation is the goal, then all rounds should be included. If the rating of rookie acquistions is the goal, then UDFA's shoulds also be included. If rating player acquistiions is the goal, then all acquisitions should be measured.
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Evaluations and articles regarding the best and worst drafting team is done before every draft. Expect lots of articles in the month before the draft. Curiously the guesses of most everyone is that the patriots are among the top 5 drafting teams over the past 5 and 10 years. Obviously, the patriots also do very well with UDFA's. It should be noted that the 2009 draft (which it is way too early to evaluate) were B+ to A- right after the draft, and have moved up a notch since then.

Deus Irae

If you were going to make such a pathetic "analysis", you should at least have gotten the rounds correct. Cripes, you're pissing and moaning about the draft and you couldn't even get Watson in the correct round.

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TriplecHamp

They better not be drinking beer, last thing we need is to become slower.

Real World

Couldn't agree more. BB is a mediocre judge of talent. The last few years look like the drafts from his Cleveland days. They keep trading down into a round, the second, that they've have horrible results in.

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Fencer

So Pro Bowlers, including a repeat Pro Bowler, are average, as a Super Bowl MVP who was traded for franchise-taggee kind of value. And starters are busts.

Right ....

By the way, I'm pretty sure Davey was a 4th rounder.

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BradyFTW!

Eugene Wilson, Ben Watson and Nick Kaczur as busts? That's just stupid. What a retarded thread.

BradyFTW!

Down by the tags there's an "edit tags" link that you can click to add your own. Not sure why, but ripping on dumb threads with them is really fun.

Urgent

I ran a similar analysis two or three years ago, comparing Patriots draft performance to the league. The results then demonstrated that the Patriots performed significantly better than the league in the first round, well below league average in the second, and about average across the bottom.

Anyone that pulls out names like Brady and Givens to prove the Patriots' drafting ability in the later rounds needs to also then dredge up the leagues of players no longer around. Brady was obviously influenced by luck - if the Patriots had any idea of his potential, they would have drafted him in the first. Givens, as many recall, was a pick that the Patriots passed on a number of times before actually making the call.

And I'm surprised at all the negative feedback regarding the classification of Marquise Hill. Did he die 'trying to save the life of another' or out jet-skiing with another woman? And how does that impact his on-the-field results? Marquise Hill was a second round pick. In three seasons he had two total tackles and one assist. Seymour missed five games during that period - there were opportunities. Before passing away, the feeling on this board was that he would be released in training camp cuts. I hope this doesn't devolve into a who-can-type-loudest debate on Hill's performance, but it is indicative of some of the response.

Yes, this analysis is much more insightful when compared to league performance.

Based on comparing recent results to previous analysis, I'd guess that the Patriots are still probably better in the first than league average. No clear busts. Pats picks in the first are generally fairly safe. I would guess still worse than league average in the second. And probably about average after that.

However, the league has clear drop-offs in performance round by round. First round picks have a much higher rate of success than second round picks, and so forth.

If your strategy is to trade down year after year, you would need to perform quite a bit better than league average to be successful with that approach.

Compare that approach to the Jets' results, moving up to target players like Revis and Sanchez.

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borg

My concern is the staff has been either UNWILLING or UNSUCCESSFUL at developement at certain positions.
RB-Decade of zero developement accentuated by premium draft choice bust
WR-Post Branch and Givens era (AKA..no SB era), limited attempts met with failure
DB-Post Assante era...the Jackson Pollack era...throw alot of paint at the canvas and see a splattered mess. Hobbs stuck to the canvas, but not to WRs. Wilhite has similar traits. Point being the startings corners in the playoff game were FAs.
LBs. BB started to toss back end picks at the position, few lasted through camp. First rounders are not considered developement projects.
Safety. Successful
DL. Beyond the 3 1sts, Pats have been successful filling out roster
OL. Same as DL, many hits with a nice bullpen
QB. Can't complain, but a couple years of only 2 QBs on roster means their misses have left them thin.