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Old 01-11-2010, 09:08 AM   #31
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I prefer rookies as well. The vets all seem set in their ways. We can go back to Donald Hayes straight through to Donte Stallworth and Joey Galloway. They don't work out often. Welker is another story. At best, you hope to find another David Patten.

But this offense did quite well with Deon Branch and David Givens, so I say, let Tommy work with marginally talented rooks, and that's the way to develop a receiving corp.

I'm all for drafting 3 WRs in the middle rounds next year. Mike Wallace, Deon Butler, Austin Collie, Johnny Knox, all went 3 to 5 rounds, so there is talent available there. You might have to take a scattershot approach just to find one or two, but it's not like the Patriots value 4th and 5th round picks highly anyway.
I'd love to see BB's draft board from just ONE draft. It would go a LONG way into helping people understand how he looks at things..

Personally, WR is a smaller issue than LB (need a ILB and OLB), O-line (need a center and guards. Possibly a tackle) and D-line (need a top end DE). I'd like to see those areas addressed before they look at WR.
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:09 AM   #32
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I expect us to sign three free agents in hopes of ending up with two on the roster. Last year, we drafted two, traded for one and drafted one for two roster spots which we ended up filling with Edelman and Galloway.

Edelman is the keeper from the four options in 2009.
And we need to do this all over again in 2010 for the same same position!
I generally agree. But I don't want to see Aiken on the football field as a receiver for this team unless he improves dramatically. Too often it looks like he runs poor routes, isn't prepared for the ball, and can't come down with it when he goes up for it. He has subpar hands, and only has marginal speed vertically, and poor speed laterally. He's a great STer.

There was a time when this team had 5 legitimate NFL wide receivers (Branch, Givens, Brown, Patten, Bethel) and aside from PR/KR duties, none contributed on ST (in the manner Aiken/K. Wash do). We ran much less 3 or 4 wide sets back then, and this still was our depth chart. Now, we try to run the spread offense with 3+ wideouts half of our snaps, yet our #3 wideout is a career STer? That MUST change this offseason.

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I'd still like Golden Tate, he is a great YAC guy and you'd have to think he would have an easier time than most rookie WR as he's played for Weiss.
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I generally agree. But I don't want to see Aiken on the football field as a receiver for this team unless he improves dramatically. Too often it looks like he runs poor routes, isn't prepared for the ball, and can't come down with it when he goes up for it. He has subpar hands, and only has marginal speed vertically, and poor speed laterally. He's a great STer.

There was a time when this team had 5 legitimate NFL wide receivers (Branch, Givens, Brown, Patten, Bethel) and aside from PR/KR duties, none contributed on ST (in the manner Aiken/K. Wash do). We ran much less 3 or 4 wide sets back then, and this still was our depth chart. Now, we try to run the spread offense with 3+ wideouts half of our snaps, yet our #3 wideout is a career STer? That MUST change this offseason.
Yeah, you know. That Bethel Johnson, totally legit NFL WR.
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I expect us to sign three free agents in hopes of ending up with two on the roster. Last year, we drafted two, traded for one and drafted one for two roster spots which we ended up filling with Edelman and Galloway.

Edelman is the keeper from the four options in 2009.
And we need to do this all over again in 2010 for the same same position!
I hope Nick Moore and Robert Ortiz are not the two free agents

you mentioned.
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I'd still like Golden Tate, he is a great YAC guy and you'd have to think he would have an easier time than most rookie WR as he's played for Weiss.
I'm thinking our offense has morphed quite a bit since the Weis years, but I'm not sure. I'd like to think our offense can morph quite a bit next year. We don't seem to hit receivers on the run any more, just ask them to sit into space.
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I'd love to see BB's draft board from just ONE draft. It would go a LONG way into helping people understand how he looks at things..

Personally, WR is a smaller issue than LB (need a ILB and OLB), O-line (need a center and guards. Possibly a tackle) and D-line (need a top end DE). I'd like to see those areas addressed before they look at WR.
I'm more comfortable with Mayo and Guyton out there than I am with Sam Aiken and Isaiah Stanback. That being said, I did write middle round guys for WR, and I certainly want a couple DE/OLB in the top four picks, so we're covered.

The way to avoid bombing out on WRs in the first and second round is to draft them in the 4th or 5th round, LOL.
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josh reed would not be a bad pickup......

then draft ricardo lockette
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I know and I argued for a top pick (or FA) on the draft board before Welker got hurt. But people need to stop saying he had another major (ACL) injury unless they can provide something behind it.
The injury was serious enough to put the kid on IR with plenty of time left in the season. Given that Patriots injury information is more aggressively protected than the U.S. nuclear launch codes, all people can do is speculate. It's the reality of the situation.
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Or the 7th

We have enough youngsters with Edelman and Standback.

We need to bring in veteran speedsters to compete for the position opposite Moss, keeping the winner as the #2 receiver and a second as our #4.

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I'm more comfortable with Mayo and Guyton out there than I am with Sam Aiken and Isaiah Stanback. That being said, I did write middle round guys for WR, and I certainly want a couple DE/OLB in the top four picks, so we're covered.

The way to avoid bombing out on WRs in the first and second round is to draft them in the 4th or 5th round, LOL.
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