OT: What now? The Eagles... - New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard
NEWS
|
FORUM
|
PHOTOS
|
VIDEOS
|
FULL STATS DATABASE
|
PODCAST
|
RUMOR MILL
Get Social With PatsFans.com
Five Thoughts On Tebow
'13 NFL Previews Are In
Tebow at QB? No Way

Go Back   New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard > PatsFans.com Forums > PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum
Forgot Password? Join PatsFans.com!
Register Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read Chat Room

WELCOME TO OUR FORUM HERE AT PATSFANS.COM!
ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW

Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-10-2010, 02:41 AM   #1
Practice Squad
 
Boots Electric's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: https://twitter.com/therealguille
Posts: 171
Default OT: What now? The Eagles...

Just a little running thread I am thinking about doing about each team that loses in the playoffs and what their moves are in the off-season. Hope it catches on. If not well....no use crying over spilled milk.

The Eagles:

QB: It would be seen crazy for them to get rid of McNabb but they have to start thinking if they should start with the Kevin Kolb era (there is a reason they drafted him in the 2nd round, very good QB at Houston) and get what they can from teams desperate for QBs. If he does end up on the trade market, the Browns, Raiders, 49ers, Dolphins, and Bills would probably give up many draft picks and a player or two to get McNabb. Michael Vick will be gone. Teams will be interested in him and the Browns, Redskins, and Dolphins might be looking towards signing Vick given the QB situation of the Browns (but who knows how he might be received in the Dawg Pound!) and the Dolphins because of their use of the wildcat and an average QB to help him out.

Crazy Prediction: McNabb will be gone. The Eagles need to get better defensively (which I will discuss later) and need to re-build that offensive line. What teams will give up for McNabb is intriguing and if the right offer comes along, you can bet he is gone.

RB/FB: They have talent in this spot, but it's wasted by Andy Reid's play calling. I'm not one who screams "RUN THE BALL! WE NEED TO RUN! BE A SMASHMOUTH TEAM!" but I do understand that you need to have runners who consistently get positive yardage running the ball and who are good pass blockers and you need to use them to help keep the defense on it's toes. Also, what do you do with Westbrook who is going to be in his 2nd year of a 5 year $32 million extension?

Slap of Reality: Nothing is going to change with Reid. The Eagles will not run the ball and waste more talent at the RB position. Westbrook might stay.

WR: Talent all around. But again, Reid's play calling and McNabb's play really hurt them against the Cowboys. Always going for the 20+ yard play. They never used Avant in the slot (and when they did they never went to him) and Curtis has been injured for the better part of 2 seasons now and is up there in age. Maclin shows promise but he did not pan out in the slot as some had hoped. They need a slot receiver to help them if they are going to be so pass happy.

Slap of Reality: Kevin Curtis is probably gone and Avant will be put in the slot with Maclin and Jackson on the outside.

TEs and O-line: Celek is a great receiver but as a blocker, he leaves a lot to be desired. The TE's other then Celek also did not do that well against the pass rush. The O-line is hurting. They gave up 38 sacks this season (35 on McNabb) and you have to wonder how many more they would have given up if McNabb didn't have the ability to avoid the rush. Stacy Andrews did not turn out to be the stud they hoped and the injury to Jackson was more severe then they thought given how poor Cole played at center.

Defense: Their defense was average against the run but very good at rushing the QB (44 sacks). They do live and die by the blitz though and when a good rushing team faces them, they get annihilated. Their pass defense is extremely mediocre and like the Saints pass defense, they rely heavily on turnovers, otherwise, they get torched. Their safeties are also atrocious and the loss of Dawkins really hurt this team. How much of the defenses faults are on them or the playcalling though?

Slap of reality: At the end of the day, the Eagles need to get better at covering receivers and not relying so much on the sack or turnover. They have talent with their front 7, but they need a cover corner and will probably get one from the draft (Brandon Ghee or Perrish Cox, Kyle Wilson is interesting but he is just like the CBs they have now) and they need a safety. The play calling needs to stop depending so much on the blitz. Otherwise, Dallas will run them over in the NFC East for a while.

Final Prediction: McNabb will be traded only if the right offer comes along. Gone are the days of "McNabb is our guy" and in are the days of "McNabb is our guy unless you have something better to offer". As I said, given the pressing needs at QB for some teams, they would go all in to get McNabb. Vick will also be gone. He went to Philly to lower his profile and ease back into a starting role in 2010. His talents are attractive enough to teams like the Browns and Dolphins (I will say if Vick goes to either of those teams, they will look like an attractive offense on paper). I would put the Redskins in there but I don't think Vick wants to go to a team with that much pressure and media attention in 2010.

Westbrook will stay as I feel that the Eagles FO won't have the heart to trade him and this was just not his year. Through the draft, the Eagles will look to upgrade their secondary and offensive line. Kevin Curtis will probably be traded as well with his injury plagues the past two seasons and Avant being the younger of the two.

Opinions?
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.

Last edited by Boots Electric; 01-10-2010 at 02:48 AM..
Boots Electric is offline  
FEATURED ADVERTISEMENT
DONATE TO PATSFANS.COM
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!

Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account
including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.

NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98

Updated 07/08/11

Help Us Reach Our Goal!

Old 01-10-2010, 03:40 AM   #2
Banned
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,930
My Mood: Daring
Default Re: OT: What now? The Eagles...

Interesting analysis, but I have a hard time seeing McNabb being worth anything more than a high second round pick. He's getting older and seems to be a bit injury prone.
sbpatfan is offline  
Old 01-10-2010, 05:55 AM   #3
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
Patjew's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Back in Rhode Island!!
Posts: 9,086
My Mood: Fine
Default Re: OT: What now? The Eagles...

I'd rank the Eagles as the most disappointing team of the 00's .So much talent, in it until the end so many years, and could just never get over the hump.
__________________
Drink like a beast.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Patjew is online now  
Old 01-10-2010, 05:57 AM   #4
2nd Team Getting Their First Start
 

Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,637
Default Re: OT: What now? The Eagles...

The "Kevin Kolb" era would be just fine - we've seen glimpses earlier when Donovan was injured and he flourished.

I'm not crying that they have been dissappointing in the 00's... better them than us ! (though some around here would say WE've been dissappointing too ! Haha !)
farn is offline  
Old 01-10-2010, 10:23 AM   #5
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
 
cartmen's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: RI
Posts: 516
My Mood: Bored
Send a message via AIM to cartmen
Default Re: OT: What now? The Eagles...

I am predicting a few wow I can't believe that moves too with them like the cutting/trading of a guy like S Brown or perhaps even Asante...I can dream can't I
__________________
Our reign of dominance will continue with a healthy Brady and reformed D! SB champs in 2010 again -
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
cartmen is offline  
Old 01-10-2010, 10:55 AM   #6
Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
 

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 9,372
My Mood: Bored
Default Re: OT: What now? The Eagles...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patjew View Post
I'd rank the Eagles as the most disappointing team of the 00's .So much talent, in it until the end so many years, and could just never get over the hump.
Yeah. As someone who grew up in Philly and who has cheered for the Eagles in every game they have played during his adult life (except for the games vs. the Pats), I can tell you that the disappointment in Philly that this team never won it all under Reid and McNabb is extreme.

I think of Donovan as the Patrick Ewing of the NFL. A very, very good player, who was just an intangible, a little luck or a couple of supporting players away from greatness.

I haven't been to the Philly Board yet today, but when I go I expect to find a fanbase that has woken up to the cold reality that an era might be over and that they have to look to the future.
__________________
It is what it is. It wasn't what it wasn't.
PatsFanSince74 is offline  
Old 01-10-2010, 11:01 AM   #7
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
 

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dallas
Posts: 811
My Mood: Amazed
Default Re: OT: What now? The Eagles...

It's gotta be over for McNabb & Reid in Philly. I would be surprised if both are back next year. And I agree with whomever said they were the most disappointing team of the 00s. IMO last year was their best chance for a ring and they blew it.
__________________
They're like little action figures.
thechris is offline  
Old 01-10-2010, 11:08 AM   #8
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
PatsWickedPissah's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: New Hampster!
Posts: 19,526
My Mood: Grumpy
Default Re: OT: What now? The Eagles...

Why folks were always so high on Reid, I'll never understand. Yes, he was definitely above average as an NFL HC but no where near a top ranked guy. Like Shotty, a long record of not geting it done. Plenty of football talent but a cronic inability to exploit it in pressure situations.
__________________
RIP Vince Flynn. Condolences to family and friends.
PatsWickedPissah is offline  
Old 01-10-2010, 11:10 AM   #9
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
nabwong's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Peeladelphia
Posts: 1,713
My Mood: Sleepy
Default Re: OT: What now? The Eagles...

Quote:
Originally Posted by PatsFanSince74 View Post
Yeah. As someone who grew up in Philly and who has cheered for the Eagles in every game they have played during his adult life (except for the games vs. the Pats), I can tell you that the disappointment in Philly that this team never won it all under Reid and McNabb is extreme.

I think of Donovan as the Patrick Ewing of the NFL. A very, very good player, who was just an intangible, a little luck or a couple of supporting players away from greatness.

I haven't been to the Philly Board yet today, but when I go I expect to find a fanbase that has woken up to the cold reality that an era might be over and that they have to look to the future.
I think it's maturity. He's still a little kid inside.
__________________
Belichick: Stats are for losers. Final scores are for winners.
nabwong is offline  
Old 01-10-2010, 11:13 AM   #10
In the Starting Line-up
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,842
Default Re: OT: What now? The Eagles...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patjew View Post
I'd rank the Eagles as the most disappointing team of the 00's .So much talent, in it until the end so many years, and could just never get over the hump.



I agree with you. They have talent. They are the onyy team I know who hates the run more than us. With their BIG OL I could never figure out why they don't run more . They always seem to draft a OL early.

Next year will be the same as I see no major changes. If they didn't have the worst fans in sports I might feel sorry for them.
carolinatony is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Sponsored Links



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:33 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

© Copyright 2000-2012. PatsFans.com Is a Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.
The opinions posted in this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of our staff at PatsFans.com or USA Today.
We are not affiliated with the New England Patriots™ or the NFL™. The Photo Used In the header was taken by Ian Logue.

This site is owned and operated by I&K Internet Design Enterprises, LLC


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566