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Afterlifemobile-86 · 12-01-2009, 12:25 AM

Where are all the Kaczur defenders now?

JFK · 12-01-2009, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Afterlifemobile-86

Where are all the Kaczur defenders now?

KAczur is average that's why he got an average pay from the Pats..

***HarkDawg*** · 12-01-2009, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dynasty

I think this settles the argument that Vollmer is better than Light. By no means am I saying that we would have won this game if Vollmer played, but I am saying that Vollmer is better than Light.

Light lovers can now go into a corner and

Vollmer= STUD

agreed... that him playing would not have changed outcome

pats_premi · 12-01-2009, 12:30 AM

I think the bigger issue is Koppen. He seems to be losing most of his one on one battle with DL. Teams seems to be collapsing the pocket from the inside.

MrNathanDrake · 12-01-2009, 12:31 AM

Fans have been calling for a Kaczur replacement for years now.

Why has everyone seen the need for a new RT except for BB and the front office? Same could be said about OLB's. And even though he fixed the secondary a bit, he was a year or two late on that as well.

nashvillepatsfan · 12-01-2009, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HarkDawg

Light lovers can now go into a corner and

Vollmer= STUD

agreed... that him playing would not have changed outcome

I, personally, have no intention of hiding in a corner. Would you care to put some facts behind your argument? O-line breakdown for each QB pressure perhaps?

Its very easy for people on this board to watch a game at 'game speed', and then suddenly have all the answers. I would ask that people go back, and watch the game tomorrow, or weds, then comment with some facts.

BennyBledsoe · 12-01-2009, 12:54 AM

It's amazing that we can find flaws on a 7-4 team. I think we're just too used to them hitting every draft pick and nailing every random free agent pickup that we're amazed when we miss.

I'll admit I've questioned our recent drafts but....hey, 7-4 is better than 1-9.

The Dynasty · 12-01-2009, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by nashvillepatsfan

I, personally, have no intention of hiding in a corner. Would you care to put some facts behind your argument? O-line breakdown for each QB pressure perhaps?

Its very easy for people on this board to watch a game at 'game speed', and then suddenly have all the answers. I would ask that people go back, and watch the game tomorrow, or weds, then comment with some facts.

No question that having Vollmer tonight would have helped the OL, not saying it would have made a difference but definitely would have helped

denverpatsfan · 12-01-2009, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by maverick4

The O-line isn't at fault, the play calling is.

This game on the offensive side was way too eerily similar to how we got stuffed in the 07 Superbowl.

Teams scouted us and knew our favorite tendencies, and stuffed them.

Welker had 6 catches for only 30 yards. That pretty much tells you how predictable we were to the opposing defense.

Don't go saying the Saints D-line was unstoppable or that their secondary was elite, the problems are with offensive play calling.

You nailed it! Smartest post game comment yet. Those new/rookie/old CB's are not that good. Great coaching and game prep enabled them to know what was coming. Coaching for the Pats was terrible. Peyton and his staff smoked BB and his. Plus the young D. hopefully next season Weis & Crennel are back. BB can't or won't do it all any more.

***Joker*** · 12-01-2009, 01:48 AM

The game plan seemed OK at the start....run Maroney and chew up yardage and the clock...I liked it...Maroney sure liked it and Brady wasn't really rushed at that point...when it turned,as far as I'm concerned was Brady's first INT...he was forced out of the pocket and made a bad decision...from there, the Saints smelled blood...you could feel their defensive intensity go up a few notches.

N.O. starting two corners who were out of football last week and watching them make huge play after huge play seems to go to Payton's breakdown of the Pats offense and his ability to get the D on the same page.

Once the Dome started to rock and there was that momentum shift, it was all uphill from there. It's a team game...the better team won tonight. I don't usually dog a player unless it's obvious he's a POS, but after watching Kaczur out there looking like he was running in quicksand trying to block anybody, I think th Pats need to make a move NOW to solidify the right tackle position. I think BB will get this done since he usaully sees eveything far more clearly than I ever could. The rest of the gripes about Koppen and Neal...hey, it was a tough game for everybody...look at Wilhite's game...jeez...we won't see N.O. again this season unless it's on a neutral field....I'd like to see the Pats get another crack at them and Mr. Untouched Brees...whack Mr. Safety Kleen around a few times and let's see how HE responds.

just my two cents...