Deion Sanders and Mariucci say Faulk got the first down! - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

letekro · 11-16-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mcgraw_wv

I don't think there would haev been enough evidence to overturn it anyways. I would have liked to see the perspective from the other side of the field.

There's a youtube video where someone goes through a DVR of the play. Honestly, it's not conclusive. There's no video camera positioned right at the 30, it's at an angle so you can't get an accurate read on it. All I can tell you is, it was within one foot of the 30 (on either side). Anything more than that and I'd be guessing.

***KontradictioN*** · 11-16-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ForThoseAboutToRock

While we're on bad calls - can anyone tell me what exactly Darius Butler did to earn a P.I. call on the 2nd to last Colts scoring drive?

Yeah, he breathed on the receiver so the refs had to throw the flag or else Manning and Polian would have thrown a ****fit.

fnordcircle · 11-16-2009, 09:12 AM

If players execute properly one bad call will not change a game. There's plenty more you can point to about that game than just one spot by the officials.

If they knew they were going to go for it on 4th and 2 they should have done a QB sneak on 3rd and 2 or a draw - something more than two straight short yardage passes in the face of a really good rush.

Seacoast Fan · 11-16-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by letekro

There's a youtube video where someone goes through a DVR of the play. Honestly, it's not conclusive. There's no video camera positioned right at the 30, it's at an angle so you can't get an accurate read on it. All I can tell you is, it was within one foot of the 30 (on either side). Anything more than that and I'd be guessing.

I posted this in a different thread, where the youtube link is, but if you watch it, and stop the video just as Faulk's foot comes down on the turf, when he clearly had possession, his foot is squarely on the thirty yd line.

letekro · 11-16-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Seacoast Fan

I posted this in a different thread, where the youtube link is, but if you watch it, and stop the video just as Faulk's foot comes down on the turf, when he clearly had possession, his foot is squarely on the thirty yd line.

Who cares where his foot is??? The placement of the ball is what's important - to me it looked like an equal chance that it was on the wrong side of the 30 when he came into possession.

mcgraw_wv · 11-16-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Seacoast Fan

I posted this in a different thread, where the youtube link is, but if you watch it, and stop the video just as Faulk's foot comes down on the turf, when he clearly had possession, his foot is squarely on the thirty yd line.

Ok, but you will need the camera angle from the other side to verify his possession.

***Mike in 333*** · 11-16-2009, 09:46 AM

It would have been really nice if NBC let us see a few more views of the play instead of letting Collingsworth proclaim that Faulk bobbled the ball all the way to the ground. There's a great video at Barstool Sports that shows the ball was firmly in Faulk's possession before he was pushed back. The refs made the call that they did, although the apparent initial spot of the ball was not where the ball was finally spotted, and we have to live with that. But at least in my mind I'm satisfied that it was a good play that was well executed.

Patspsycho · 11-16-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mayoclinic

But the Pats used up all of their timeouts before the 2 minute warning, and couldn't challenge. That's inexcusable.

In this regard, it really is on BB.

One would think he would have the insight that he couldn't challenge the forthcoming play if anything happened. That should have been extra incentive to punt.

duce110 · 11-16-2009, 09:50 AM

I was watchin the NFL network after the game... They showed the clip about 5 times... I tip my hat off to Dion, he spoke out and said it was a 1st down... side judge had no view of the ball and they show a clip of another side judge runnin down the field gettin ready to mark it 1st and 10...

upstater1 · 11-16-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KontradictioN

Would, coulda, shoulda. Maybe he did, but without timeouts we weren't in the position to challenge the referees on it. That alone should have forced BB to call for a punt.

Wait, are you saying you punt because of the 1% chance you may need the challenge on the next play?