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teamplay · 01-06-2006, 03:08 PM

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Bill's Girl · 01-06-2006, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PATSNUTme

The funny part to me is when KC announces to the world: "WE would like to introduce the new HC of the KC Chiefs, Herm Edwards. A man we wanted so bad that we had to give up a 4th round draft choice to the NY Jest. They just wouldn't settle for the 7th rounder that we had offered initially."

That is a little heartless, Nut, after all, Tom Brady was a fourth round pick!

Seriously though, when we got BB from the Jets didn't we have to give them a first round pick that they turned into Pennington? How did KC end up giving up a 4th round?

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 01-06-2006, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill's Girl

That is a little heartless, Nut, after all, Tom Brady was a fourth round pick!

Seriously though, when we got BB from the Jets didn't we have to give them a first round pick that they turned into Pennington? How did KC end up giving up a 4th round?

They're big tippers.

KDPpatsfan · 01-06-2006, 03:50 PM

Tom Brady was a 6th round pick.

***PatsWickedPissah*** · 01-06-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NEM

Sorry, but I want Martz as our OC. As a head coach he sucks, as an OC, he knows the importance of going for the jugular.

Martz would be an awful OC. Bad decision maker. I'm not surprized he's your choice.

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 01-06-2006, 05:08 PM

The case for Heimerdinger

http://jets.scout.com/2/486249.html

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According to the New York Daily News, Jets owner Woody Johnson isn't in favor of promoting offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger to head coach.

No reason was given.

This is very surprising. Heimerdinger is a terrific head-coaching candidate with an outstanding resume. He was a runner-up for the San Francisco 49ers' opening last year.

Why is Johnson not in favor of hiring Heimerdinger? It's hard to say because this is just a rumor, and Johnson hasn't commented publicly. But if I were to hazard a guess, a major reason why Johnson might not support "Dinger" is that the Jets' offense ranked 30th in the NFL this season.
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Heimerdinger can't be judged by the performance of the Jets offense in 2005. He was dealt a terrible hand, made even worse by his boss - Herman Edwards.

The Jets offense was ravaged by injuries this year. It was very hard for Heimerdinger to install his new system with all the key players that were sidelined - including quarterbacks Chad Pennington and Jay Fiedler and offensive linemen Kevin Mawae and Jason Fabini. And let's not forget the season-ending injuries to wideout Wayne Chrebet and tight end Chris Baker.

But to make matters worse, Edwards forced Heimerdinger to start immobile 42-year-old signal-caller Vinny Testaverde behind a patchwork offensive line. It was a horrendous decision that had disastrous results, especially in the Buffalo and Atlanta games.

On top of that, Edwards forced Heimerdinger to use injured tailback Curtis Martin, who clearly wasn't 100 percent since a Week Two knee injury. But this didn't stop Edwards from playing Martin all the way until the Week 14 game against New England. Martin rushed for 29 yards on 14 carries against the Patriots, before he finally said he couldn't run anymore. His backup, Cedric Houston, ran well in the last three games and clearly should have replaced Martin earlier.
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Almost every time Heimerdinger talks to the press, I turn to a fellow reporter and say, "This guy is going to be a head coach one day." You just get that vibe - the way he conducts himself, the knowledge he exudes, the way he communicates.

He's also a no-nonsense coach, something the Jets need now after five years of Edwards, who is the quintessential players' coach. We hear some players aren't working as hard as they should in the weight program. This is a big reason strength coach John Lott left for Cleveland last year. He wasn't getting the proper support from the head coach. A strength coach can't make players work out, unless the head coach has his back.

Also, some players on injured reserve stopped attending meetings under Edwards. This can't be allowed.
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Heimerdinger is Bill Belichick-like in that he loves spending countless hours in the laboratory coming up with innovative game plans.

"The hours he puts in are mind-boggling," said Titans backup quarterback Billy Volek
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Another reason Heimerdinger is a terrific candidate for the job is continuity. If the Jets ever want to bridge the gap with New England, they need to stop changing systems. The Patriots are all about continuity, and the Jets' constant staff changes are very bad for player development. If Heimerdinger leaves, the Jets offensive players will have to learn their third new offense in three years.
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Woody, you can do an extensive search if you like, but the feeling here is that your head coach is already in the building.

Oh how we're going to miss Herm - but if this story is any indication, Woody is sporting one and has no time for reality.

shirtsleeve · 01-06-2006, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NEM

Sorry, but I want Martz as our OC. As a head coach he sucks, as an OC, he knows the importance of going for the jugular.

Fanfrom1960 · 01-06-2006, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NEM

Sorry, but I want Martz as our OC. As a head coach he sucks, as an OC, he knows the importance of going for the jugular.

Before I did anything about Martz, I'd call Dick Vermeil to get his opinion. Martz always did flaky things like make frivolous challenges that would run him out of timeouts when he needed them. He seemed out of it in other ways too. I'm not sure if you flip a switch that says now you're an OC and he gets all his sh*t together. He might end up in Oakland anyway, which might drive Davis crazy finally.

Flying Fungi · 01-06-2006, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by T-ShirtDynasty

Patriots Brothers and Sisters, please join me in prayer:

Dear God,

You took Herm away from us, and while all of us in the AFC East feel hurt and betrayed by this heartless move, we graciously ask that you replace Herm with someone of equal competence to provide us with continued humor. We ask, in your name, that you deliver on to the Jets, Jim Haslett (or at least Mike Tice).

Amen.

Wannestadt...Fiedler...

The sequel

***PATSNUTme*** · 01-06-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill's Girl

That is a little heartless, Nut, after all, Tom Brady was a fourth round pick!

Seriously though, when we got BB from the Jets didn't we have to give them a first round pick that they turned into Pennington? How did KC end up giving up a 4th round?

I know that we did give up a first rounder the first year. And, I think we gave them a third in the next year.

Anyone fell free to correct me if I'm wrong,not that you wouldn't anyway.

Brady was a 6th and Givens was a 7th. You never know when you're going to strike gold. But, to only give up a 4th rounder for a guy you want for HC, doesn't really say much.