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cmasspatsfan · 10-27-2009, 11:05 PM

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Screw running... turn Maroney into a outlet receiver. He is not the power runner I expected to get from Minnesota.

Fortunately what you expect doesnt matter, BB put this team together and all that matters is thats he is that he does what BB expects.

***zeke mowatt*** · 10-27-2009, 11:10 PM

Maroney is an average run of the mill NFL talent.........who is too fragile. I can't believe there are people out there who actually get worked up over the criticism. Bust is too harsh, he's serviceable, productive at times.........Just like any number of lower $ FAs the pats have had over the years. He'll never be a dominant back. Comparisons to Dillion are laughable. And don't kid yourself, if this guy was a good as some of you seem you believe, he'd see more carries.

He could disappear from the roster and the pats wouldn't miss a beat IMO.

Given his draft status, yeah, he's a disappointment.

***zeke mowatt*** · 10-27-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cmasspatsfan

Fortunately what you expect doesnt matter, BB put this team together and all that matters is thats he is that he does what BB expects.

Yeah, Belichick knows what to expect which by now ain't too much.......

PATRIOTSFANINPA · 10-27-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

It's a completely made-up argument that has absolutely no basis in reality, but that's pretty much standard for the poster that you quoted.

Here is 'reality' for you,If Maroney does not shine as the main RB until the other two come back ....'reality' says you may have to become a fan of the next team Maroney is on - I think its a near certainty its do or die in the next 5 games because he is in the spotlight at his position.

7 Carries for 6 yards won't cut it against the big boy fronts coming up.

PATRIOTSFANINPA · 10-27-2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by zeke mowatt

Maroney is an average run of the mill NFL talent.........who is too fragile. I can't believe there are people out there who actually get worked up over the criticism. Bust is too harsh, he's serviceable, productive at times.........Just like any number of lower $ FAs the pats have had over the years. He'll never be a dominant back. Comparisons to Dillion are laughable. And don't kid yourself, if this guy was a good as some of you seem you believe, he'd see more carries.

He could disappear from the roster and the pats wouldn't miss a beat IMO.

Given his draft status, yeah, he's a disappointment.

Now THATS 'REALITY' - great post and perfect to what most us us who don't drink the kool aid in huge kegs see.

Whenever he gets 7 carries for 6 yards its excuses galore in here saying no one beats the Ravens defense who BTW just happened to give up 120 yards to Cedric 'Freaking couldn't make the Bears team' Benson - I guess Cedrick Benson is really Jim Taylor and the Bengals OL is all world.

***DaBruinz*** · 10-27-2009, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HarkDawg

he will never be a dominant runner........ I expect him to be consistent and he cannot do that. Running Backs especially need to be consistent.

Screw running... turn Maroney into a outlet receiver. He is not the power runner I expected to get from Minnesota.

So, let me get this straight. Because your expectations had no basis in reality, that is Maroney's fault? NONE of the draft guides had Maroney as a POWER BACK.

Maroney was NEVER a power runner like his teammate Marion Barber. There is a difference between being a power runner and being someone who can run with power. Barber is a North/South Power Back. Maroney is a cut back runner. They were extremely different in how they played. But that is part of what made them so effective in Minnesota's running game. That and the fact that Minnesota insisted on running 3 or 4 backs per game.

If the O-line isn't consistent, even the great runners will have trouble. Including guys like Walter Payton and Barry Sanders. Even the Adrian Petersons of the world. And no, Maroney was never in their class as a runner.

***ausbacker*** · 10-27-2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA

Now THATS 'REALITY' - great post and perfect to what most us us who don't drink the kool aid in huge kegs see.

Whenever he gets 7 carries for 6 yards its excuses galore in here saying no one beats the Ravens defense who BTW just happened to give up 120 yards to Cedric 'Freaking couldn't make the Bears team' Benson - I guess Cedrick Benson is really Jim Taylor and the Bengals OL is all world.

Now now PATRIOTSFANINPA, do believe that Maroney is a good back, not a great career back, but Benson is having a career season and has been running over everyone.

Let's tread a little lightly here.

***DaBruinz*** · 10-27-2009, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA

Here is 'reality' for you,If Maroney does not shine as the main RB until the other two come back ....'reality' says you may have to become a fan of the next team Maroney is on - I think its a near certainty its do or die in the next 5 games because he is in the spotlight at his position.

7 Carries for 6 yards won't cut it against the big boy fronts coming up.

Reality says that you're gonna keep harping on this regardless of what Maroney does on the field because, like Maverick with McDaniels, that is all you can do.

Reality is that even the best RBs have trouble when their O-line play is inconsistent. Including the Vaunted Adrian Peterson.

Miami and New Orleans are going to be the three tough games. Miami because they are a division oppoinent and New Orleans because of their vaunted passing attack, which opens things up for the run.

BTW, of the 6 other games, not a single one is rated in the top 10 in Run Defense.

***BradyFTW!*** · 10-27-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA

Now THATS 'REALITY' - great post and perfect to what most us us who don't drink the kool aid in huge kegs see.

Whenever he gets 7 carries for 6 yards its excuses galore in here saying no one beats the Ravens defense who BTW just happened to give up 120 yards to Cedric 'Freaking couldn't make the Bears team' Benson - I guess Cedrick Benson is really Jim Taylor and the Bengals OL is all world.

Wow, every time I think you've said the dumbest thing that you're capable of saying, you go and do something like claiming that the top rusher in the NFL is a crappy RB:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...yRUSH_YDS.html

In fact, Benson/Maroney is a great comparable imo. Benson's another RB who got labeled a bust by all of the local idiots because he didn't perform to mammoth expectations, and it never occurred to anyone that maybe he didn't forget how to run on the plane trip from Texas to Chicago.

BTW, did you happen to see BJGE's stat line on Sunday, against the Bucs' 31st-ranked rush defense? That's right- 7 carries for 6 yards. I'm sure that it still hasn't occurred to you that the common denominator is that our OL kinda sucks at run blocking, but FWIW it's clear to anyone with basic observational and analytical skills.

***zeke mowatt*** · 10-28-2009, 12:06 AM

[QUOTE=BradyFTW!;1569902]Ummm... Cedric Benson is one of the best RBs in the NFL right now. Do you even *try* to know what you're talking about?

BTW, did you happen to see BJGE's stat line on Sunday, against the Bucs' 31st-ranked rush defense? That's right- 7 carries for 6 yards. I'm sure that it still hasn't occurred to you that the common denominator is that our OL kinda sucks at run blocking, but FWIW it's clear to anyone with basic observational and analytical skills.[/QUOT

What do your basic observational and analytical skills tell you when an undrafted FA's stats match a highly touted first rounder?