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Old 10-19-2009, 03:16 PM   #31
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And i'd trade Bret Lockett for Troy Polamalu, but it's not happening
That's a terrible analogy; Branch has played marginally better in Seattle in three seasons than Galloway has with the Pats.
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If the Pats are gonna trade for someone I'd rather it be Roscoe Parrish so that they could have a bonafide punt returner.
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There are 3 reasons why I do not think it would be good...1) The team will be paying a fairly high price, for a player that is not even close to what that player was 4 years ago when he was playing here. 2) That player's salary is way out of touch with teh reality of his play. Why pay a player big bucks for so little. There is no value there. 3) Given how he left, I do not think management wants him back.
The salary would be a stumbling block; currently his base salary (what the Pats would have to pay) for this season is almost $5M, which is around how much cap room the Pats have left. Trading Galloway in a companion deal would only clear $1.15M off the books.

EDIT: I forgot that portions of that salary have already been paid; Branch's salary the Pats would take on would be 11/17 of $5Mish, while the Galloway salary the Pats would clear would be 11/17 of $1.15M.
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Again, Belichick is too smart to let something foolish like that get in the way of making a deal that would improve his football team, if you are to believe Branch is an improvement over Galloway.
You are right, I let my emotions get in the way, but it is understandable I guess
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If the Pats are gonna trade for someone I'd rather it be Roscoe Parrish so that they could have a bonafide punt returner.
Edelman's had some nice returns. In fact, Parrish is only averaging 6.1 yds/ return (on 12) this season, while Edelman is averaging over 10 (on 6).
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The salary would be a stumbling block; currently his base salary (what the Pats would have to pay) for this season is almost $5M, which is around how much cap room the Pats have left. Trading Galloway in a companion deal would only clear $1.15M off the books.
Trades & contracts confuse me, so forgive me if this is way off - but couldn't we rip up his contract upon the trade and write a new one, like we did w/ Moss? Seattle has to pay the rest of his signing bonus his contract for this year can get re-written?
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Trades & contracts confuse me, so forgive me if this is way off - but couldn't we rip up his contract upon the trade and write a new one, like we did w/ Moss? Seattle has to pay the rest of his signing bonus his contract for this year can get re-written?
Yes, but you still need the cap room to initially absorb the contract before the renegotiation. Brady had to tweak his deal the night of the trade in 2007 in order to fit Moss' old contract under the cap.

It's the same situation as the Peppers deal in the offseason - the Pats would have needed to clear enough cap room to absorb Peppers' huge franchise tag hit ($15M?) before they could restructure. The only other option would have been the Panthers signing an extension first, but when they traded him the SB would have accelerated and hit them; the only way around that would have been to work a SB-less deal that wouldn't have any acceleration on the trade.
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Given that Morris might be out for some time, that Steven Jackson prospects seems very inviting
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Yes, but you still need the cap room to initially absorb the contract before the renegotiation. Brady had to tweak his deal the night of the trade in 2007 in order to fit Moss' old contract under the cap.

It's the same situation as the Peppers deal in the offseason - the Pats would have needed to clear enough cap room to absorb Peppers' huge franchise tag hit ($15M?) before they could restructure. The only other option would have been the Panthers signing an extension first, but when they traded him the SB would have accelerated and hit them; the only way around that would have been to work a SB-less deal that wouldn't have any acceleration on the trade.
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9/12/2006: Signed a six-year, $39 million contract. The deal includes $13 million guaranteed. 2009: $4.94 million, 2010: $5.47 million, 2011: $5.95 million, 2012: Free Agent. Cap charge: $$7,546,240 (2009).

Not sure how the $$ id spread out but it's fair to say there is no way on god's green earth that BB is paying Branch $5.47 next year and $5.95m in 2011.. Only way he comes is to renegotiate and we all know how much Branch loves the almighty dollar...I'm sure Chayut is chomping at the bit to have Branch make the vet minimum....
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Before calling Branch old and decrepit(including myself), I just took a look at his profile and was shocked to see he's still only 30 years old. Galloway is 40! Looking at Branch's stats in Seattle, they haven't been horrible and to my surprise there hasn't been any dropoff in yards per catch(13.5-13.7ypc) and TD receptions. In fact his yards per catch increased in Seattle and his touchdowns were exactly 4 per year from 2006-2008. Not bad I think. These stats would dwarf anything Galloway would do for NE.

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