We are at least where I expected us to be - New England Patriots Forums

***mgteich*** · 10-11-2009, 08:11 PM

We are 3-2.
We split our division games.
We are 2-1 against solid non-division opponents.
Yes, the jets and denver are better teams than I expected them to be.
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We should be fine coming out of the bye. I expect 5-2 now, but expected 4-3 before the season started. A 7-2 finish is reasonable.
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OFFENSE
Before the season, we had absolutely no reason to believe that Brady would be anywhere near 100% before the bye. Manning was 3-4 coming back last year and then went undefeated. The open question is when Brady will be back to more normal performances for him. The rest of the offense is fine. There will be the normal changes and issues, but it is basically fine. Edelman is fine as a #3 receiver. Watson is having a fine year. The offensive line has been better than anyone had any right to expect.

DEFENSE
We are already a very good defense. This is an incredible achievement for the front office, for the coaching staff and especially for Pees. This group has performed so well without so many of their former stars, and with Mayo out. The transformation of the secondary is al but complete (we need more development of the youngsters). The linebackers have been performing well. McGowan and Banta-Cain have been incredible additions. Green is the same lunchpail player he has always been, and Wright has stepped up big time. It is also great to see the kids develop, especially Guyton and Pryor.

CampPen33 · 10-11-2009, 08:19 PM

You and I seem to be a couple of the few non-thinkers of DOOOOOM!

italia44 · 10-11-2009, 08:21 PM

This is all well and good,but what you're missing is that in the first 2 road games,the offense was terrible and the D cannot make a stop,when they needed toThey may look like gangbusters at home,but when you lose on the road,because of stupid penalties and offensive,ineptness,it's a trend...not an anolomly.

***convertedpatsfan*** · 10-11-2009, 08:21 PM

WE ARE WHO WE THOUGHT WE WERE!

Sorry. I couldn't resist.

When I saw the schedule, I thought we'd drop the Jets game and one of the Falcons/Ravens games. But overall, it's what I figured as well. Maybe that's why I'm not panicking like so many people.

CampPen33 · 10-11-2009, 08:22 PM

Even though I was FURIOUS, because after all the "sucking" today, we SHOULD have won. No one seems to think about that. We SHOULD have won. "We were out-coached, played... blah blah blah." They SHOULD have won, bottom line. Brady will ultimately start hitting Moss on the long balls, and not throw sure touchdowns to Welker in the dirt. It's all on him right now, in my opinion, but that won't be forever.

Right now, you think Brady is DONE? Just stop posting, forever.

The Coon · 10-11-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CampPen33

You and I seem to be a couple of the few non-thinkers of DOOOOOM!

+3

I actually LIKE where this team is going. Its not how you start the year its how you finish. They should know that better than anyone after what happened in 2007

crypto · 10-11-2009, 08:23 PM

I agree, except that we need to get more aggressive on defense. 12-4 or 13-3 is very doable this year. 11-5 occurs only if the **** hits the fan.

Italia44, please go buy the 2003 season recap DVD. The Patriots lost their first game 31-0 to the atrocious Bills. The lost in week 3 to the mediocre Redskins. This team has lost to two of the best defenses in the league. Same record through five games.

***NEPatriot*** · 10-11-2009, 08:24 PM

If we continue playing crappy like this, you need to forget about playoff game or expectation. Perhaps, you need to stop watching Pats games.

crypto · 10-11-2009, 08:25 PM

Stop whining and read the post above yours.

CampPen33 · 10-11-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by crypto

I agree, except that we need to get more aggressive on defense. 12-4 or 13-3 is very doable this year. 11-5 occurs only if the **** hits the fan.

Exactly. The lame duck sitting back sh** was annoying the hell out of me. I loved the aggressive approach they took last week. What happened to that?

So who do we lose to now, who we didn't think we would? Coming into this year, I basically wrote the game in Denver of as a loss, so after the loss I reasoned with myself that I expected this to happen. I think people are just annoyed because they really let it slip away.

Something ringing in my mind is the announcers in the Jets game saying that the Jets weren't playing the Prevent, that prevents you from winning.

I know we play a bend but don't break style of defense, but when that is just not working, THROW THE SINK AT THEM.