BPF

In the Pats 3-4, DE's need to be stout. Speed has nothing to do with playing the position in this defense. DE's need to be able to hold their place without being pused around and allow the LBs to make plays. TBC can rush the passer on 3rd down but he's not playing DE in this defense. Carter can play the position of course but so can Brace.

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STH since 1994....sec 236

mgteich

It is not a plus to be the slowest defensive end in the entire league.

Would you really want Brace coming in for Seymour or Warren? Are they the slowest in the league. Of course the DE's #1 job is control of space, but guys like Seymour do much more.

spacecrime

Yes, but you are the first person to say Green should be cut to save $2 mil.

Every other post (and there have been dozens) say he isn't worth $5 mil.

I'm sure that if BB finds a better player out there for $2 mil or less a year, he will pay that guy and cut Green.

The key will be finding that DE. Are you saying that Burgess is that guy? TBC?

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Deus Irae

People such as yourself keep making this "slowest defensive end in the league" type of argument. That's not necessarily accurate. He had the slowest measurables at the combine. That doesn't mean that he'd be the slowest on the field.

I'm not saying you're right or wrong. However, the Patriots have been playing him at end, according to reports, and they may see his 'game speed' to be higher than you seem to think it.

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spacecrime

Being too slow, too big, too small, too whatever is not a negative in an of itself. Being ineffective because you are slow is a problem. You can be small/slow/whatever and it won't matter as long as you are effective and productive.

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BB on his draft philosophy, April 2010

reflexblue

How quick is his first step? What was Braces 10 yards time? Because in most cases thats all he'll need to run, 10 yards.

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mgteich

Andy can answer for himself, but LeKevin Smith was arguably better last year than Green. Carter could also replace Green. I see the team making a long-term commitment to Smith long before Green. Our primary backups could be Brace, Wright and Smith. I favor keeping seven this year, but would rather have Carter than Green. We may need all the above if Warren goes on PUP or IR.

tanked_as_usual

you have to look at who the pats are playing.......there's aren't that many pass-happy teams on their schedule......there are many instances where brace could be in there as a DE bulking the team up versus the run

VJCPatriot

80% chance? But I don't see any reports of a Kevin Carter signing yet. Does this 35 year old DE have anything left in the tank? The Pats were said to have hosted him on Tuesday.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12018509

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Box_O_Rocks

Green sucks and has been "spotty, at best" for several years now, haven't you been reading the experts? Green has moved behind Wright because Wright played ahead of Green at LDE (Ty Warren's slot) and NT (Vince Wilfork's slot) while Green was also struggling with an injury. Pity Green only had 7.5 sacks three seasons ago, or 6.5 sacks two seasons ago, he slid to 2 sacks last season while playing injured - he's "a witch, burn him!" Funny, if we were to tally up the percentage of their career Green and Wright played at the three base positions, I'd think we'd note a trend for Green to play behind Sey more often and Wright behind Warren more often, with a more equal split at NT - though Wright has been the primary back-up there when he's healthy. Ah well, as least we are assured there will be a nice Louisiana Bar-B-Q soon.

Db - Miguel is the reason any of us have cap data to argue over. You correctly point out that Miguel does not know the date of the projected roster bonus and he is speculating based on his sources that Green reached several escalators that make that bonus possible...but since he is our acknowledged lead capologist, and (based on his tracking of these issues) he has suggested the most likely time frame for paying the roster bonus, I'll need you to provide a reliable source who contradicts Miguel's semi-professional opinion (nothing personal, but your speculation doesn't carry the same weight even though you are better than I at dissecting cap issues).

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