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Conditional that the 4th becomes a 5th if NE acquires one. First reported by Ian Rapaport via Borges' contacts and now confirmed by Mike Reiss. Just posting this for those who can't read through pages of Burgess threads that have turned into arguments...
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They had a need, he fills a need. At least it didn't also cost them a player and he could turn out to give them much mroe value than they would get from the 3rd and 4th or 5th rounder.
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Sure, I would have preferred that the Pats give up a bit less, especially for a player that may only be here for one year. Regardless, at this point in time it looks like a good value for both teams. Right now it looks like a good move and the right thing to do for the Pats. Surely somebody will say in April, or three years from now that 'the Pats coulda' had this guy' but that's no way to evaluate a trade. This trade improves the team without giving away too much in the future.
Every report all along has had it as a bidding war between the Patriots and the Eagles, so there was no chance of a real steal here. It's worth it, which is all that really matters. And with a 1st and 3 2nds next year, the Pats are still in position to get anybody they really want.
Every report all along has had it as a bidding war between the Patriots and the Eagles, so there was no chance of a real steal here. It's worth it, which is all that really matters. And with a 1st and 3 2nds next year, the Pats are still in position to get anybody they really want.
I'm chalking it up as finalizing the Moss trade that they got the short end on two years ago...
And three 2nd rounders? That's a couple of additional later round picks coming in 2010 and 2011 to make up for the "lost" pick needed to seal the trade for Burgess, and if it is a 5th rounder then it's going to Oakland which means the trade is really just a 3rd rounder outright for the Patriots.
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"As long as we have Belichick, I always think that we're going to be just fine."...Tom Brady, in reference to his coach.
“It is what it is, but it ain’t what you think.”...Brandon Spikes
Every report all along has had it as a bidding war between the Patriots and the Eagles, so there was no chance of a real steal here. It's worth it, which is all that really matters. And with a 1st and 3 2nds next year, the Pats are still in position to get anybody they really want.
That's a very good point. Overlooked in this discussion is the fact that the Pats had previously already put themselves in a good position to make this deal. With four picks in the first two rounds this trade is far more palatable than if they had, for example, already traded away picks and possessed just two picks in the top half of the draft. If that was the scenario then this changes the outlook and trade value dramatically.
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Re: Burgess trade - 2010 3rd and 4th
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Sure, I would have preferred that the Pats give up a bit less, especially for a player that may only be here for one year. Regardless, at this point in time it looks like a good value for both teams. Right now it looks like a good move and the right thing to do for the Pats. Surely somebody will say in April, or three years from now that 'the Pats coulda' had this guy' but that's no way to evaluate a trade. This trade improves the team without giving away too much in the future.
We have to remember how the Jedi Master thinks:always a year ahead.
The pats could have 6 or more draft choices make this team....more,if you count the practice squad.
This is a huge number considering this is a veteran,top-shelf SB contender.What does Belicheck usually do the next year?...........shed draft choices,either for player trades or future picks.Also,remember our 3,4,or 5 are bound to be end of round picks.BB went for depth this year....next year i predict BB will use his 4 or 5 high picks to go for 2or3 stud selections.
It's the "Patriot Way".
Burgess trade - 2010 3rd and (4th or 5th)
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