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Old 07-03-2009, 11:11 PM   #21
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Why the heck should he be taken out considering all he did for the team in his decade+ with them?

Because of his position? His defection? His lack of "athleticism"?
Because there were every down players that I put above him.
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:15 AM   #22
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Here's the link for those who haven't seen it: NFL Videos: Top 10 Patriots of all time

My big question is, where is BB?? If not #1, at worst he should be #2 on this list. This shouldn't be a player only list, I saw Papa Bear Halas was the #1 Chicago Bear the other day. BB belongs on this list, no doubt about it.
Coaches can go on the list? Yeah, then Belichick's #1.
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Old 07-04-2009, 01:25 AM   #23
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So are we now saying that clutch kickers are a dime a dozen? Vinatieri deserves to on the list of top 10 patriots of all time.
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10. Ben Coates
9. Nick Buoniconti
8. Tedy Bruschi
7. Willie McGinest
6. Drew Bledsoe
5. Mike Haynes
4. Adam Vinatieri
3. Andre Tippet
2. John Hannah
1. Tom Brady

Here's mine.

10. Bruce Armstrong
9. John Hannah
8. Ty Law
7. Richard Seymour
6. Stanley Morgan
5. Mike Haynes
4. Troy Brown
3. Tedy Bruschi
2. Andre Tippet
1. Tom Brady

Although I recognize Hannah's greatness (best OG ever), I am biased against Olinemen being at the top of the list. Armstrong never gets the credit he deserves so I'm happy to recognize his amazing career. Love McGinest but there's no way I can put him ahead on the list over someone like Ty Law and Richard Seymour. Same thing with Ben Coates.
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I like the list they put, dont love it but I like it. I would actually take out Tom Brady from that list... no Im not crazy its just that since he is so obviously the #1 player that theres no need to put him on there since every one already knows that. The main reason behind that is so we can get some less recognized and just as worthy players from the Patriots on the Top 10 list.

So heres how my list would end up:
10. Troy Brown
9. Adam Vinatieri
8. Drew Beldsoe
7. Nick Buoniconti
6. Steve Grogan
5. Willie McGinest
4. Tedy Brushchi
3. Mike Haynes
2. John Hannah
1. Andre Tippet
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Here's mine.
Although I recognize Hannah's greatness (best OG ever), I am biased against Olinemen being at the top of the list. Armstrong never gets the credit he deserves so I'm happy to recognize his amazing career. Love McGinest but there's no way I can put him ahead on the list over someone like Ty Law and Richard Seymour. Same thing with Ben Coates.
I'm surprised Armstrong wasn't on more lists...If he's not in the top 10 he's gotta be just outside of it.
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10. Ben Coates
9. Nick Buoniconti
8. Tedy Bruschi
7. Willie McGinest
6. Drew Bledsoe
5. Mike Haynes
4. Adam Vinatieri
3. Andre Tippet
2. John Hannah
1. Tom Brady


I agree with 1-3, but the rest I don't know about, where's Gino.
Where the hell is Ty Law?

And Seymour.
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So are we now saying that clutch kickers are a dime a dozen? Vinatieri deserves to on the list of top 10 patriots of all time.
Not a dime a dozen at all; I just think that guys who contribute more. I get where you're coming from, and Vinatieri was certainly one of a kind, but in the average NFL game there are about 125 snaps. Realistically, the kicker is unlikely to contribute on more than a handful of them. Guys that are in there contributing for 40+ snaps per game are more important, IMO.
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Where the hell is Ty Law?

And Seymour.
Agreed. IMO, both belong ahead of Bruschi, Bledsoe, Coates, and Vinatieri, to say the least.
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Not a dime a dozen at all; I just think that guys who contribute more. I get where you're coming from, and Vinatieri was certainly one of a kind, but in the average NFL game there are about 125 snaps. Realistically, the kicker is unlikely to contribute on more than a handful of them. Guys that are in there contributing for 40+ snaps per game are more important, IMO.
Of those "handful of snaps" damn near all of them directly affect the outcome of the game either by scoring points for their team or nailing the opposition deep in their own territory. Quality over quantity.
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