SammyBlueCat

Remember when TBC had Jacksonville's Jones-Drew wrapped and then allowed him to go for a long TD?

Box_O_Rocks

The guy had been down, even if not by contact. Rodney missing the tackle was a more egregious mistake on that play, stuff happens, nothing to carry over past the postmortem.

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satz

Guyton subed in thrid down as the coverage LB. i do not get why people want this 245 lb fast LB to take on 300 lb gaurds in running /early downs. its a sure way to get his injured or lose speed as he being beat up by 300 LB gaurds.

thomas will stay out . mayo is going to play alot the other LB does not matter as we have bru the slower but college DE who can actually plays big against gaurds.the we have guyton on 3rd down which will be shared by chung.

chung /guyton with be the thrid down coverage package depending on how fast/talented the TE /SLot receiver /RB is.

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tanked_as_usual

not panicked at all.......just seeing the situation for what it is worth.........at least they could play colvin and mcginest on the outside and vrabel inside, and bruschi returned for the 2nd half of the season

the current LB group doesn't even come close to this........you have 2 spots filled with starter qualityl........I do think that guyton could be the answer for the other inside spot, but it is pointless if the pats have to depend on crable,woods, redd, or TBC from the outset this season

patsfan-1982

mayo and guyton inside AD and crable or woods outside this would be the fastest LB core we have had in yers who out there is better jason taylor ? he maybe to old and to slow to get to the QB or to cover a TE there is no demarcus ware or james harrison out there to pickup so lets see what the young guys got

Rob0729

AD isn't an ILB. He played that position the first year because of a need at the position, but with Colvin and Vrabel gone, he is the best OLB the Pats have by a bunch. No way he goes back inside except on a situational basis even if the Pats get either Jason Taylor (somewhat likely) or Julius Peppers (not likely at all).

I'm not sold with Guyton as a full-time starter yet. Even if he is, we are still thin at that position.

As for the guys other than AD at OLB, I don't think Belichick is sold on any of them. If the rumors about the Pats' interest in Jason Taylor and/or Peppers is true, then Belichick is clearly not sold on the other guys at the position. Crable hasn't played a down of football in his career. How can Belichick be sold on him for the future? If he was sold on TBC for the future, why was he given a one year deal? At this point, I don't see Redd making the team because of all the new players added, how roster spots will be at a premium, and especially if Taylor is added, the OLB position seems to have a lot of players for the number of spots available. I think if Belichick thought Wood was starter material, I don't think he would have gotten Colvin back last year and used him as extensively as he did.

I don't think the LB position is a liability especially if they get Jason Taylor, but I don't think it is as sound as you say it is. I think with Taylor the Pats will have enough to get by this year, but I expect Belichick to be active next year (assuming his hands aren't tied by the top 8 team rule) in trying to get potential starters at two of the positions. Who knows Guyton may turn into a solid full-time starter and one of the back up OLBs emerge.

Rob0729

Yeah if I remember correctly, you had to look at the replay three times to get a definitive answer whether his knee was down. How could anyone in real time on the field think anything else other than he was down. Freak plays like that are heartbreaking, but shouldn't be used to judge a player's career.

RoughingthePasser

We already have linebackers.
AD
DROY-Mayo!
Gary Guyton
TBC
Bruschi

Shawn Crable runs a 4.6. He can get in the backfield quickly. In college, Shawn played for Michigan and was 2nd in the nation for tackles for losses. He is also a reknowned hard hitter. We didn't get to see enough last year because of his injury.

Pierre Woods can switch from right to left OLB easily and has time in the system. He could cover some of Vrables position.


Vince Redd was drafted in the 2008 class as the tallest and fastest at his position. In college he had the highest broken up pass statistic. People need to remember this athlete will be ready to compete. He's big and athletic.

I'm anxious to see what we have.

RoughingthePasser

I forgot to add some of the excellent secondary talent we've acquired that could present multi-position players

mgteich

The big hole is at inside linebacker. I suggested Thomas; most said that didn't make sense.
Without Thomas, these are our ILB's.

Mayo - stud and future all pro
Bruschi - he's starting, but how much can we expect this year
Guyton - pass down specialist and hopefully future stater
Alexander - our ILB special teamer, who should have no reps at linebacker

And with our 34th pick, we picked a safety.