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Old 04-27-2009, 10:48 AM   #21
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This is awesome. It's great that people can spend all day making personal attacks against every single person who didn't ballwash the Patriots draft. Really, I think it's great that so many Pulitzer Prize winners and major newspaper editors take the time to come here and do that.
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:52 AM   #22
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This is awesome. It's great that people can spend all day making personal attacks against every single person who didn't ballwash the Patriots draft. Really, I think it's great that so many Pulitzer Prize winners and major newspaper editors take the time to come here and do that.
Don't lump everyone into that group. I feel like a lot of us are arguing his points without resorting to personal attacks on King himself.
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That said, King is wrong on this one, and really I'm very puzzled by his reaction.
It's pretty simple. When a mediot makes a prediction the way King did, and the team does the opposite, how is he supposed to grade them? They certainly did not do as expected, and he extpected them to move up to improve the team, so in King's mind they didn't improve the team.

That is the joke about grading drafts. Teams are graded by what they did compared to what the evaluator thought they should have done.

It's silly, but harmless.
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The funny thing is that other than ILB, I felt SS was the Pats biggest need going into the draft over CB or ILB or O-line.
Thank you! I haven't heard this opinion (which matches mine) often enough. You need three starting-or-near-that-quality safeties, or else you're hurting! What if Rodney retires and Meriweather gets IRed in September? Then you would have had Sanders and ???. We tend to have 3 to 6 injuries in our defensive backfield in a bad year (all too often). Maybe we're STILL thin at safety!
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Really, the only need we didn't address in this draft was pass rushing linebackers, and let's be honest... would any player outside of the top 10-15 have stepped in and made a difference to the pass rush this year? More than likely that answer is no.
Great point, Sicilian. It's as if BB believes, "To be an OLB for me, you have to be so good that either you're a veteran with experience, or a rookie with freakish (top 15) talent."
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I guess Peter King still feels he needs to be relevent, he hates the nfl network ,because it rained on his scoop parade.. The Pats have been shutting out King for a while since Spygate, and he has to rely on second hand news... Peter King is only higher then John Clayton, and that is not saying much
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Don't lump everyone into that group. I feel like a lot of us are arguing his points without resorting to personal attacks on King himself.
I realize that, and I'm sorry if you thought I was referring to everyone. But, doesn't it get ridiculous to you when every single person who makes a comment that, in any small way, doesn't anoint the Patriots as perfection personified gets personally attacked? Nothing that the OP quoted can be shown to be wrong by anyone here, and King even gave a nod to BB with his "we all said the same thing about Ty Warren, Vince Wilfork, Matt Light and Logan Mankins." Nonetheless, the drones are out buzzing and attacking. It's pathetic.
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It's pretty simple. When a mediot makes a prediction the way King did, and the team does the opposite, how is he supposed to grade them? They certainly did not do as expected, and he extpected them to move up to improve the team, so in King's mind they didn't improve the team.

That is the joke about grading drafts. Teams are graded by what they did compared to what the evaluator thought they should have done.

It's silly, but harmless.
Exactly. Mocking is a fun, but futile game for semi-informed amateurs (of which I'm one). Is there one person on the planet who correctly mocked the first ten picks? Did any mocker match more than a few picks with their teams in the second or later rounds?

As for grading the draftees before they put on pads-ridiculous. How many of these draftees do the Pats have space for on their roster? Four? Five? Some will make the practice squad, and a couple may have minor trade value. We won't know who's going to shine and who will flop until the preseason is well under way.
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