Lord_Reginald_III

yup..... this team is built on consistency & toughness, neither of which seem to be larry's strong suits

Deus Irae

The guy ended up on IR and had to have surgery.

Wow.... just, wow.

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Deus Irae

Have you ever watched this team? Every year, the secondary is a M*A*S*H unit, linebackers drop like flies and the OTHER running backs go down with injuries.

Despite the bleatings of far too many people here on Patsfans.com, the biggest difference between Maroney and the other players is not injury. The difference has been the severity and location of the injuries.

Then again, this is the same messageboard that still has people insisting that Seymour hasn't played well since getting his contract and declaring that he should be traded.

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PATRIOTSFANINPA

Some guys in here are so pathetic to make excuses about how injuries and everything else is a reason as to why a guy wearing a Patriot uniform does not suck

BUT

When a guy like Gholston does not do anything on his first season as a pro he is an automatic bust just because he is on the Jets but proven losers like Chad Jackson were given 3 years to 'develop' because he was a Patriot .... Thats pure stupidity guys

Maroney has had ample opportunities to show that he was a good pick in 2006 but so far he has shown little flashes sporadically at best.


Our 2006 draft will go down as an overall very poor draft year and one of Pioli and Belichicks worst this decade,Thankfully most of the other drafts since 2000 were very good or we would not even have 1 title this decade if all were like 06

This years draft has to include a replacement for LoMo who will be saying goodbye next year IMO

supafly

I don't think AZ wants to part with one of the best safeties in the league, and I don't think Maroney has enough trade value right now to package with a second rounder for Adrian Wilson. That's just my opinion, and I respect yours.

I think A.Wilson is an integral part of their defense, and I think we'd be getting the steal of the decade, parting with a second rounder and Maroney--for a proven, veteran safety. I think any Pats fan would wanna do it, but just don't think it makes sense from AZ's point of view. Just because they're not dealing with A.Wilson right now dosen't mean they're getting rid of him. They don't want the cap hit from Dansby, that's why they're working on him, instead of the franchise tag. And Boldin is a problem right now, an immediate one. But that dosen't undervalue their thoughts on A.Wilson.

And if AZ's fans want one of the best safeties in the game off of their team, they're incredibly insanely crazy. Only Ed Reed, Troy Polamoalu, and arguably Brian Dawkins were even in the same league as Adrian Wilson. They'd hafta be totally nuts, but like I said, you have your opinion and I have mine. BB would jump all over this in a heartbeat. Maroney and an unproven second rounder for A. freaking Wilson, wow!

Deus Irae

1.) What were Gholston's injuries last season, and how many games did he miss as a result?

2.) What did Maroney and Jackson do for the Patriots in injury free years that would be considered below general league-wide expectations?

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supafly

I'm all over your opinion of Maroney,believe me. It's this yr or bust for him, no doubt. But the 07 draft wasn't too good either, I think the only guy we even kept was Merriweather. I think 07 was worse than 06, but both sucked.

Rob0729

Ummm... Maroney's 4.4 yards stat does take into effect his negative yards stats. If it didn't, it would be much higher. The 4.4 yards stat is not bogus. It doesn't speak the whole story, but YPC doesn't tell the whole story for any RB. Maroney is a hit or miss RB so far in his career. When he hits, he is as good as any RB in the league. When he misses, it is pretty bad. He just hasn't hit nearly as much as he needs to so far in his career.

To compare him to Chad Jackson is what is bogus though. Jackson showed some very, very flashes his rookie season. Maroney has shown far more. The end of the 2007 season, he looked to be turning into an elite RB. He didn't follow that up this past year, but he might this upcoming year especially with Brady back and teams fearing the passing game again.

I think Maroney is still more of victim of perception over reality. Every once and a while I still hear we could have had Joseph Addai over him as if Addai has far outperformed Maroney eventhough Addai got outplayed by Rhodes last year and has been nothing more than mediocre since midway through the 2007 season. Maroney hasn't lived up to his first round status, but he hasn't been a complete disaster as some like to make him out to be.

PATRIOTSFANINPA

1) Who cares how many games or injuries Vernon had? - The guy had ONE season under his belt and according Patriotville he is already a bust because he is wearing Green - And I think the arrogance goes towards the comparison of our outstanding rookie Mayo - If Mayo had a subpar year instead of being an awesome young starter we would hear nothing about Gholston sucking

2) How many games can you say that Maroney was a big reason as to why we won that particular game? - We all know Chad Jackson had an average of yardage per game of about his jersey number (17) when he was healthy that is - Tom freaking Brady could not change him to become decent,that about says it all


Maroney was outstanding at Minnesota but in the pros is made of Glass and Jackson was a spectacular WR at florida but in the pros was simply a guy who could not make the transition. - Thats the way our round #1 and round #2 selections will look regarding 2006

I guess what you are saying that if Maroney was healthy his whole career he would be a shoo-in for one of the greatest RBs in Pats history - Sorry but I find that very hard to believe,even with 3 consecutive years of perfect health - Maroney is a borderline mediocre RB and always will be to most of us unless he can show more consistency like he has promised the last 2 seasons - that includes staying off of the injury list often for one season

Belichick is not perfect in every decision he makes and Maroney and Jackson were two of those blunders that shows BB is human and makes screwups like every person does.

Rob0729

Gholston compared to Maroney? Really?!? Maroney has had injuries which may or may not have affected his performance, but Gholston was healthy all year. Maroney accomplished more in his first game of his rookie season than Gholston accomplished all year.

The guy has shown he has a lot of potential. Whether he ever puts it together on the field is still a question mark. He has the capability to be a top back if he can stay healthy and works on hitting the hole harder. He may never do that though. The Patriots, not even Maroney, deserve to allow him a shot to prove he can turn around his career.