Sicilian

Difference is, Brady is a cerebral QB, while Favre is more instinctual. Much, much harder to teach instincts.

To Deus:

I agree with your underlying premise, but I'll admit I'm having trouble discerning your angle on this particular thread. Are you saying we're not giving Favre or Mangini a fair shake based on media perception?

spacecrime

Ahh, that explains it.

spacecrime

My perception is that Favre is still the property of the Jets, and if Ratboy brings Favre into the Browns training camp, he is guilty of tampering.

How out of phase is that with reality?

Deus Irae

No, it's not just media perception. Another aspect to public perception/NFL reality is the "He's not on my team, so I'll crush him for every minor flaw" approach. People here love to bag on Favre's interceptions, for example, but awfully quiet about things like Brady's tossing that pick from the ground against Miami.

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Deus Irae

He's on the retired list, so if he's not there as a player, how is that tampering?

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RobAllan

People bag on Favre because he's hugely overrated. And one bad Brady ball is nothing compared to the volume of INTs Favre has thrown. Brady had good reason to throw that ball-- he'd made the same throw successfully earlier. But he hasn't done it since meaning he doesn't embrace his bad habits like Lord Favre.

Seriously, first ESPN and now this? I don't get it. I know you're not a real Pats fan but it seems like you've been posting here forever. Are you Eric Mangini? This is my leading theory.

-Rob-

NEGoldenAge

Agreed. It seems weird to compare one bad decision with a career laced with them. I'm not a Favre hater, the guys a HOFer, but I do acknowledge that the guy threw farve (far) too many INTs.

Deus Irae

See, this is why people think drugs are bad. You shouldn't be posting while impaired. What I pointed out was something known, and identified, as an "example".

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Sicilian

I have no problem pointing out that an individual play was not a good one by Brady, but I'm usually willing to forgive them because he's won three super bowls and those lapses in judgment are the exception for him, not the rule.

Of course Brady gets more leeway around here, but ask anyone outside of New England who takes more risks with the football and they'll say Brett Favre (or they're lying). Whether you believe those risks outweigh the positives he brings is another argument entirely, but the fact remains, Favre makes a lot of mistakes in big situations, which in today's NFL is the opposite of what you want from the QB position.

Deus Irae

Oddly enough, Packers' fans were willing to give Favre that same leeway. That's my point.

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