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I sort of like this idea for a trade. He's 29, which isn't young by NFL RB standards, but he doesn't have much tread on his tires. Also, he's put up a pretty great season by anyone's standards with 1200+ yards at 4.0 ypc w/ 42 receptions, and the next year put up 800+ yards rushing at 5.4 ypc. He's pretty good imo, to have as a rotational guy. The first round pick + him is quite a good deal for the Patriots imo.
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I also think we will get at least a first. There is no reason to accept less, Cassel is fine with playing in New England for another year and it allows us not to rush Brady back. Teams will know that and have to belly up a first to get us talking.
I also think we will get at least a first. There is no reason to accept less, Cassel is fine with playing in New England for another year and it allows us not to rush Brady back. Teams will know that and have to belly up a first to get us talking.
He's fine with being put in a gilded cage for a year and getting $14M+.
That's not particularly fine for the Patriots.
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If I'm a Minnesota fan a straight up #1 would be a no brainer, they likely would need to throw in a 3. It's not so much about the stats as it is is watching the play of Cassel and the last half of the year he improved his touch, his decision making in whom to pass to AND when to run, showed pocket presence and stood in until the last moment to get the pass off. He only still sucks at long passes. Once GM's look at the tapes they'll clearly see he is not a system QB:
Also, let's look at the 2000's #22 draft picks:
2000 Seattle Chris Mcintosh T
2001 Giants Will Allen DB
2002 Jets Bryan Thomas DE
2003 Bears Rex Grossman QB
2004 Bills J.P. Losman QB
2005 Ravens Mark Clayton WR
2006 49ers Manny Lawson LB
2007 Browns Brady Quinn QB
2008 Cowboys Felix Jones RB
OK, which player would you say "NO I wouldn't trade him for Cassel? " Look at the 3 QB's picked? Minny has a nice defense, a great RB and a terrible QB, Cassel makes them one of the NFC favorites, how could any Minny fan not want to do a trade and give up the #1 pick? What are the alternatives: Farve? HA! If Warner leaves the Cards, maybe, but that's a 1 year possible solution not a franchise QB and if he comes back it's probably with the Cards.
This trade also gets him not only out of the division but out of the conference, which I think we'll be very glad for that fact going forward. WIN, WIN.
If I'm a Minnesota fan a straight up #1 would be a no brainer, they likely would need to throw in a 3. It's not so much about the stats as it is is watching the play of Cassel and the last half of the year he improved his touch, his decision making in whom to pass to AND when to run, showed pocket presence and stood in until the last moment to get the pass off. He only still sucks at long passes. Once GM's look at the tapes they'll clearly see he is not a system QB:
Also, let's look at the 2000's #22 draft picks:
2000 Seattle Chris Mcintosh T
2001 Giants Will Allen DB
2002 Jets Bryan Thomas DE
2003 Bears Rex Grossman QB
2004 Bills J.P. Losman QB
2005 Ravens Mark Clayton WR
2006 49ers Manny Lawson LB
2007 Browns Brady Quinn QB
2008 Cowboys Felix Jones RB
OK, which player would you say "NO I wouldn't trade him for Cassel? " Look at the 3 QB's picked? Minny has a nice defense, a great RB and a terrible QB, Cassel makes them one of the NFC favorites, how could any Minny fan not want to do a trade and give up the #1 pick? What are the alternatives: Farve? HA! If Warner leaves the Cards, maybe, but that's a 1 year possible solution not a franchise QB and if he comes back it's probably with the Cards.
This trade also gets him not only out of the division but out of the conference, which I think we'll be very glad for that fact going forward. WIN, WIN.
Good point... but remember : BB is not emotionally unstable, while most GMs obviously are. Morons pick weird players at #22. BB's success rate would be better (not to say that a few of those players aren't fine players).
For the Pats it's another chip to use or trade depending on what they get, I'm looking at it from Minnesota's position, what are the odds they can get someone that will help there team more over the next few years than Cassel? Based on the history of the draft it seems not very likely. Since Cassel is a backup on the Patriots they don;t need a franchise player in return so it seems to work for the Patriots and for the Vikings.
I can't understand why everyone is thinking so low.We all know the Hoody will try to maximize the value for as long and get as much as he can.I say no to that deal with the Vikings.If They would trade a 1st and 3rd for Allen a DL who can rush the passer why would we settle for less with the best qb on the market up for grabs.With Bradford staying it only can help us as well
Last edited by KillahBUD; 02-04-2009 at 02:43 PM..
I would be thrilled with that. I mean a first alone I'd take straight up. First plus a pretty good RB? Why not? Though if Taylor came, I wouldn't be shocked to see Maroney gone. (Though I admit I don't know off hand how much Maroney is costing us)