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Old 12-01-2008, 12:46 AM   #11
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Yeah, we've been hit by injuries, but it's not like our pass defense has been hit by injuries and that's our worst unit. Harrison is out, but he was a liability in pass coverage. It's not like Brady or Maroney will be back there covering receivers. And before AD got hurt, he wasn't really being used as a pass rusher anyways. We could have Brady and Maroney back there on offense, but our pass defense would still suck. Every game will be like the Miami game where we had to outscore people and the margin for error wouldn't be that big.

Face it, BB took the risk this season when he let Samuel, Gay, and Wilson go and replaced them with Bryant, WEbsters, Sanders and the rookies. It's not working out and even if we make the playoffs and AD comes back, it's not gonna make a big difference in our secondary.

Our CBs play 10 yards off the receivers because they know they'll get burned for long gains if they stay too tight. Injuries or not, Hobbs and Oneil are below average CBs and they are killing us.
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Old 12-01-2008, 12:51 AM   #12
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As of right now, I would say that it's the lack of Adalius that's hurting us the most.** As I said in the other thread, our two rookies in the LB corps are raw. Deltha O'Neal is not the best cornerback in the league but not even Deion Sanders would have been able to stick with a receiver for 15 seconds in this defense. The pass rush NEEDS to improve or we'll see more and more 3rd and 15s converted on a regular basis.

** - This is, of course, excluding #12- the heart and soul of this football team.
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For perspective, here's the Patriots' Week 1 roster and depth chart.

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Injured Reserve
Missed significant time and/or current IR candidate
No longer with team
Currently in Practice Squad
Promoted from Practice Squad/added to roster since Week 1

QB
Tom Brady
Matt Cassel
Kevin O'Connell
Matt Gutierrez

RB
Laurence Maroney
Sammy Morris
Kevin Faulk
LaMont Jordan
Heath Evans
BenJarvus Green-Ellis

WR
Randy Moss
Wes Welker

Jabar Gaffney
Sam Aiken
Kelley Washington
C.J. Jones

TE
Benjamin Watson
David Thomas
Stephen Spach
Tyson DeVree

OL
Matt Light
Logan Mankins
Dan Koppen
Stephen Neal
Nick Kazcur

Russ Hochstein
Billy Yates
Mark LeVoir
Wesley Britt
Lonie Paxton
Dan Connolly
Oliver Ross
Ryan O'Callaghan
Barry Stokes
Anthony Clement

DL
Richard Seymour
Vince Wilfork
Ty Warren

Jarvis Green
Mike Wright
Le Kevin Smith
Kenny Smith

LB
Adalius Thomas
Tedy Bruschi
Jerod Mayo
Mike Vrabel

Pierre Woods
Gary Guyton
Larry Izzo
Shawn Crable
Eric Alexander
Bo Ruud
Vince Redd

DB
Rodney Harrison
James Sanders
Ellis Hobbs
Deltha O'Neal

Brandon Meriweather
Tank Williams
Terrence Wheatley
Jonathan Wilhite
Lewis Sanders
Raymond Ventrone
Matthew Slater
Jason Webster
Antwain Spann
Mike Richardson

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Stephen Gostkowski
Chris Hansen
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for all the up and downs I think our team has played more than I(we) expected....today we were out played,coach and all the above....We will bounce back if not this year,but next....I will be always a fan no matter what...today it totally suck *****...GO PATS!!!!
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i have to agree; now simply too many

be 7-5 is still an awesome season

without so many starters we are making a nice run
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Even with the injuries we're still in this game without the drops and Slater's fumble. Also Light getting toasted for 2 fumbles can't really be pinned on injuries.
No, the first one can be linked to Sammy Morris running right by Harrison (who had already beaten Light) without chipping him - it also didn't hurt Pit to have a 10 point lead late in the third quarter forcing NE to abandon the run. So a mistake on Special Teams and a mistake by the RB (my best guess given situational awareness should have suggested Pit was bringing the house - and recognized that Light was beaten) sets up the strip sack. The second strip sack came after Pit created an overload to the right side drawing Faulk to pick up a blitzer and leaving Light one on one with Harrison - again no run game involved with NE trying to play catch-up.
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