The Official 'Trade Brady' Debate Thread - Do Not Start Another One

[Deus Irae]

Originally Posted by scout

That's going against the keep Brady logic which has been posted. If a trade is considered, the other team is going to give a complete physical to determine the health of Brady. If he passes the physical the Pats would receive a higher compensation. No team is trading for Brady without a physical.

Brady's trade value hasn't been lower than it is now since, probably, 2002. Cassel's value has never been higher. The overwhelming likelihood is that trading Brady would not bring in enough "more" in return than trading Cassel would to justify moving the G.O.A.T..

[Deus Irae]

Originally Posted by TheGodInAGreyHoodie

Well, Brady would have to pass a physical. But if can't do that, there is little point in not keeping Cassel now is there?

Any trade decision will need to be made well before the time that Brady will be healthy enough to pass that physical. To wait will only serve to eliminate suitors.

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

Originally Posted by Deus Irae

Brady's trade value hasn't been lower than it is now since, probably, 2002. Cassel's value has never been higher. The overwhelming likelihood is that trading Brady would not bring in enough "more" in return than trading Cassel would to justify moving the G.O.A.T..

While is true. Brady's trade value is lower now than when he was playing. And Matt Cassel's is higher than when he warmed a bench. That doesn't mean Cassel's won't rise nor Brady's won't continue to decline.

It is also true that we are in the perfect situation to replace Brady.

*Cassel is younger and healthier.

*Cassel has a proven track record of winning in the Patriots system.

Do you think that second part is just going to magically appear if Brady chooses to go FA in two years, decides to retire or is too injured to continue?

Trading Brady might not put the Patriots in the absolute best position for 2009, but very well could put the Pats in the best position long term.

[Deus Irae]

Originally Posted by TheGodInAGreyHoodie

While is true. Brady's trade value is lower now than when he was playing. And Matt Cassel's is higher than when he warmed a bench. That doesn't mean Cassel's won't rise nor Brady's won't continue to decline.

It is also true that we are in the perfect situation to replace Brady.

*Cassel is younger and healthier.

*Cassel has a proven track record of winning in the Patriots system.

Do you think that second part is just going to magically appear if Brady chooses to go FA in two years, decides to retire or is too injured to continue?

Trading Brady might not put the Patriots in the absolute best position for 2009, but very well could put the Pats in the best position long term.

Brady has a track record of winning. Cassel has a 1 season streak which isn't even a full season. Do I really need to start pointing out the Derek Andersons of the world?

[PatriotsInGA]

if we trade brady we could improve our defence more importanly our secondary. then look at 2009 matt cassel as QB and a better secondary. sounds like 2004 all over again

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

Originally Posted by Deus Irae

Brady has a track record of winning. Cassel has a 1 season streak which isn't even a full season. Do I really need to start pointing out the Derek Andersons of the world?

No because for everyone who had one great year and fizzled you can come up with I can come up with 2 guys who when they came back from an injury wasn't a shadow of their former selves.

Point is we will never be in as good of a situation to replace Brady as we are now.

[BradyFTW!]

Originally Posted by TheGodInAGreyHoodie

No because for everyone who had one great year and fizzled you can come up with I can come up with 2 guys who when they came back from an injury wasn't a shadow of their former selves.

Point is we will never be in as good of a situation to replace Brady as we are now.

You're assuming that Brady needs to be replaced. As long as your argument hinges on that, it's not going to sway many people. He's possibly the best NFL player of all time, and what puts him head and shoulders above the rest is his mind. We're not talking about a running back. Even if this negatively affects his pocket presence and willingness to hang in there to some extent, he'll still be a significantly better QB than Cassel.

Cassel is a good QB. Brady is a great QB. I'm having trouble understanding how people can trivialize the difference.

[Deus Irae]

Originally Posted by TheGodInAGreyHoodie

No because for everyone who had one great year and fizzled you can come up with I can come up with 2 guys who when they came back from an injury wasn't a shadow of their former selves.

Point is we will never be in as good of a situation to replace Brady as we are now.

Your "point" is a guess, nothing more. My response will, therefore, go along the same line of merely projecting the best I can for one side or the other. For the record, I don't agree with what I'm going to write, but it's just as valid a theory as your assertion:

Point is that Cassel is just a product of the system and the talent surrounding him, and he will be a miserable failure once Moss is gone and Welker starts fading. Now's the time to get maximum value for such an overrated player Because Brady is the vastly superior player and will be around for another 5-8 years.

[PatriotsReign]

Originally Posted by aluminum seats

Number 12 will reign for ever and ever....hallayluah, hallayluah, hallayluah!!!

Number 12 will reign for ever and ever....hallayluah, hallayluah, hallayluah!!!

Number 12 will reign for ever and ever....hallayluah, hallayluah, hallayluah!!!

Now you're starting to have a clue....FINALLY!!

[aluminum seats]

Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

Now you're starting to have a clue....FINALLY!!

Yeah, all I had to do was suspend all rational thought and it was easy.