The Official 'Trade Brady' Debate Thread - Do Not Start Another One

[scout]

Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

Right, and because we have the best QB in the league, we don't need a Ravens-level defense. Hence why we made it to the SB with last year's defense, or how the Colts won the 2006 SB with their defense, or how the Cardinals might very well win this SB with their defense. We just need a *good* defense.

What I was pointing out with the Ravens comparison is that this board is so overwhelmed by fickleness and knee-jerk reactions that it's made real, reasonable discussions rare. We can't have our offense and the Ravens' defense. The Patriots cannot be the absolute best in the league at every aspect of the game. With Brady, this is the best team in the league, and it stands to improve substantially in the draft. Hence the idea of trading Brady being so irrational that it almost seems like rational people should be offended.

You assume because the Ravens, Cardinals, and Steelers were the last teams in the playoffs that we should beat them. What makes you so sure that we would have gotten by Indy, Titans, or the Chargers. I'm not sure we beat the Steelers with our lack of pass rush and corners trying to stay with Ward and Holmes.
Somehow, you have transformed the Patriots defense into a very good one to help your argument that there is no options of trading Brady.

[BradyFTW!]

Originally Posted by scout

You assume because the Ravens, Cardinals, and Steelers were the last teams in the playoffs that we should beat them. What makes you so sure that we would have gotten by Indy, Titans, or the Chargers. I'm not sure we beat the Steelers with our lack of pass rush and corners trying to stay with Ward and Holmes.
Somehow, you have transformed the Patriots defense into a very good one to help your argument that there is no options of trading Brady.

The Patriots' defense is good enough to win Super Bowls with Tom Brady at QB. The fact that they were minutes away from doing exactly that one year ago being Exhibit A. It is also a good defense; a very good one, even, that was derailed in a major way last year due to season-ending injuries to two of its on-the-field leaders (Thomas and Harrison). A couple of draft picks and free agent signing or two and the defense will be right back where it needs to be.

If anyone's transforming anything, it's you, with your insistence that Belichick suddenly forgot how to scout, draft, coach, and strategize for defense, and that we need to trade the best player in the history of the NFL, for some reason, to clean up after his mess.

[scout]

Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

The Patriots' defense is good enough to win Super Bowls with Tom Brady at QB. The fact that they were minutes away from doing exactly that one year ago being Exhibit A. It is also a good defense; a very good one, even, that was derailed in a major way last year due to season-ending injuries to two of its on-the-field leaders (Thomas and Harrison). A couple of draft picks and free agent signing or two and the defense will be right back where it needs to be.

If anyone's transforming anything, it's you, with your insistence that Belichick suddenly forgot how to scout, draft, coach, and strategize for defense, and that we need to trade the best player in the history of the NFL, for some reason, to clean up after his mess.

Its fitting of you to escalate Tom Brady to the greatest player in the history of the NFL.

[BradyFTW!]

Originally Posted by scout

Its fitting of you to escalate Tom Brady to the greatest player in the history of the NFL.

Who's better? At 31, he has 3 SBs, 2 SB MVPs, the single season touchdown record, quarterbacked the highest-scoring offense in NFL history, and has won an MVP.

[scout]

Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

Who's better? At 31, he has 3 SBs, 2 SB MVPs, the single season touchdown record, quarterbacked the highest-scoring offense in NFL history, and has won an MVP.

Ah gee, I don't know. I'd have to go with Jim Brown on offense and LT on Defense, although, I'm sure there's a few other players out there that rank pretty high.
BTW, Joe Montana is 4-0 in Superbowls with 3 MVP's, not to say he's better, but based on your rational...............

[Synovia]

Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

Who's better? At 31, he has 3 SBs, 2 SB MVPs, the single season touchdown record, quarterbacked the highest-scoring offense in NFL history, and has won an MVP.

Yes, and almost every single one of those accomplishments was a team effort.


Do you really think the 50 TDs last year was because of Tom Brady, and not Randy Moss?

[AzPatsFan]

Originally Posted by PATRIOT64

Agreed with 1,000% - Homers don't see reality

Our defense has had virtually NO SERIOUS pass rusher since Willie Mac left

Our secondary when guys got injured used to be filled in with guys from the streets that contributed enough to keep the offenses in check - Nowadays this secondary has way too many has beens and also-rans to make it a formidable one

Our BIGGEST concern to fill some holes this offseason has to start and probably end with some nice aquisitions to the backfieLd,Which of course is the cornerback position - even Hobbs is not a certified lock on his side IMO.

I expect some FA action and at least 2 picks on draft day to be in the cornerback area and for a good look at a pass rushing specialist,otherwise this team will never win another SB Title in the near future - Brady or no Brady

You sound like a General planning for the LAST war, not the NEXT one. Gee, where did the draft picks for Mayo, Meriwether, Crabel, Wheatly, and Willhite go ? Are these players all newly assigned to the Offense? What about Woods, Redd, and Guyton; are they all just ephemeral Turkeys?

[swheeler23]

Originally Posted by Synovia

Yes, and almost every single one of those accomplishments was a team effort.


Do you really think the 50 TDs last year was because of Tom Brady, and not Randy Moss?

What other qb has thrown 50 tds in a year?

[AzPatsFan]

Originally Posted by Miguel

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I stand corrected. I should have said 28%, not $ 28 million on the CAP. What was the CAP in 2003? I don't recall, but it was well under $75 million; and probably more like $50 or $60 million. I do remember people saying the Clots were over 30% of the CAP in QBs. Don't forget to add in Sorgi's or whoever's pittance too.

[ScottieC]

1000! Lets end it!