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PatsFanSince74 · 11-03-2008, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AFPatsFan12

Racking my brain, I am having difficulty coming up with a worse one...

(1) The bad ...

... Certainly this isn't a devastating loss for the season... but man does it complicate things....

Good post, especially for including the details, tho I might put the O'Neal coverage on someone besides BB. They are painful to remember tho...

There's a line that I remember from school years ago that "even Homer nods," meaning that in his poetry the great Homer has occasional lines that don't have the right rhythm. "Even Homer nods" means that even Homer was occasionally asleep at the switch.

Even Belichick nods.

We're still tied for the Division lead. If anyone had told me right after the first game that I could have the Pats 5--3 at the halfway point, I would have taken it in a heartbeat. Gotta put this one behind us.

borg · 11-03-2008, 07:52 AM

I was surprised BB went for two so early. I was also perplexed why McDanials kept calling screen passes, considering their ineffectiveness. Too bad Sanders had to get healthy this week...he is a true difference maker.

Nunchucks · 11-03-2008, 08:46 AM

This loss was definitly on the coaching staff. I agree that the challenge was pointless...5 yards in the middle of the field on first down....it was a dumb challenge.

They were running the ball well all night, why not go for it on 4th and inches? Stop wasting timeouts, this was a last possesion game, it was obvious that the game was gonna turnout like that. Going for 2 points was bad...don't ever chase points.

Also, Cassel has a lot of troublein the red zone, to help loosen up the defense they should have thrown more balls into the end zone when they were in the red zone.

This game was so very close that the smallest mistake could lose it......dropped pass by Gaffney and of course the personal foul....but, they really needed to throw the ball up into the back of the end zone to moss...he has a huge height advantage and they really shouldahve tried to take advantage of that.

TheGodInAGreyHoodie · 11-03-2008, 09:14 AM

Horribly coached......

I bet any schmuck off the street could hold a Peyton Manning led offense to 18 points the week after losing the teams best defensive player.

I bet any schmuck off the street could game plan four 13 + play, 6 min + scoring drive against a Colts defense that has seen the return of Sanders.

I bet any schmuck could get 140 yards of rushing without their #1, #2, & #3 RBs.

/sarcasm

patsgo · 11-03-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGodInAGreyHoodie

Horribly coached......

I bet any schmuck off the street could hold a Peyton Manning led offense to 18 points the week after losing the teams best defensive player.

I bet any schmuck off the street could game plan four 13 + play, 6 min + scoring drive against a Colts defense that has seen the return of Sanders.

I bet any schmuck could get 140 yards of rushing without their #1, #2, & #3 RBs.

/sarcasm

he is human and he does make mistakes , not going for it on 4th and one on the road against manning and settling for a field goal is coaching not to loose, plan and simple

jgpatriot · 11-03-2008, 09:38 AM

Horribly coached......

I bet any schmuck off the street could hold a Peyton Manning led offense to 18 points the week after losing the teams best defensive player.

I bet any schmuck off the street could game plan four 13 + play, 6 min + scoring drive against a Colts defense that has seen the return of Sanders.

I bet any schmuck could get 140 yards of rushing without their #1, #2, & #3 RBs.

Oh, great one in the hoodie. We do not mean to offend. Again, it have been previously stated by others that the game planning portion of coaching was good. It was the in game management decisions, where BB had an off night. You are kidding yourself if you think BB would repeat any of the in-game management errors again.
1. Challenge for 12man penalty, which would only provide an 1st down and 5.
2. Going for two early in 3rd quarter.
3. Being indecisive with the 4 and 1 which the Pats made the 1st down but lost when he called TO.

I still would not trade BB for any other coach but he had an off night. Also, I am not oblivious of Dave Thomas' penalty and Gaffney's drop.

BB, Dave Thomas, Gaffney, O'Neal, and Richardson were my top 5 goats for this game.

***MoLewisrocks*** · 11-03-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGodInAGreyHoodie

Horribly coached......

I bet any schmuck off the street could hold a Peyton Manning led offense to 18 points the week after losing the teams best defensive player.

I bet any schmuck off the street could game plan four 13 + play, 6 min + scoring drive against a Colts defense that has seen the return of Sanders.

I bet any schmuck could get 140 yards of rushing without their #1, #2, & #3 RBs.

/sarcasm

A better thread title might have been worst managed game in BB's tenure, but he had more to do with this loss than the guy you chose to pile on. Honestly, you're becoming a one trick pony whose (increasingly unnecessary I might add) defense of Cassel has begun to warp your brain. Nobody was going to complain about Matt last night and your pre-emptive defense of him at Thomas' expense is actually as pathetic as the Cassel bashers earlier attempts to blame him for everything.

Great game plan, solid execution save for Gaffney's whiff on a TD pass, costly mistake by 1 player but a couple of uncharacteristically costly mistakes by the HC and his eye in the sky. Really, how often do you see Bill mismanage the clock and challenges the way we routinely lambaste lesser HC's for doing fairly regularly? He overmanaged situations last night and got in the way of his own team at critical junctures. And what bothers me is he did it for a chance to punk the Colts at their own game (12 men on D). And having already made that mistake he compounded it by calling his last remaining TO to negate a 4th and 1 converted and swap it for a FG...and then his team paid the price when we had no TO's or challenge capacity for the last 11:38 of the game. And there were at least 2 plays he could have legitimately utilized a challenge on. And two TO's would have meant either the Colts could not milk all the time off the clock in the closing minutes or we could have run alternative plays present the ability to stop the clock.

***Deus Irae*** · 11-03-2008, 09:59 AM

One day people will realize that someone can make different decisions than they would have and still have those decisions not be wrong, even if they don't pan out.

Sadly, given the gibberish I've seen all over the board ever since the game last night, those people will probably not be Patriots fans.

***Joker*** · 11-03-2008, 10:14 AM

there's a ton of second guessing after a loss like this..,..we can argue back and forth all week and still have more to argue about...but to me, when a guy is paid 6 or 7 figures to perform, has had literally 1000's of reps to hone his skills, is WIDE OPEN, has the ball hit him IN STRIDE in both hands at THE crucial point of the game and fukks THAT up, I have to wonder what the hell he's doing out there in the first place.

Nunchucks · 11-03-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Joker

there's a ton of second guessing after a loss like this..,..we can argue back and forth all week and still have more to argue about...but to me, when a guy is paid 6 or 7 figures to perform, has had literally 1000's of reps to hone his skills, is WIDE OPEN, has the ball hit him IN STRIDE in both hands at THE crucial point of the game and fukks THAT up, I have to wonder what the hell he's doing out there in the first place.

Meh, Gaffney is a solid WR for the Patriots, everybody drops the ball every once in a while. Sure it sucks, when he dropped it, I knew that it probably was going to cost them a TD, but I won't get down on Gaffney for that, shiznit happens.