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Old 10-27-2008, 09:12 AM   #1
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Because this is what can happen when your long snapper is teh suck:

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PITTSBURGH - In the end, there was one injury the Pittsburgh Steelers couldn't overcome: the knee injury to long snapper Greg Warren.

With Warren out late in the fourth quarter, the Steelers tried outside linebacker James Harrison and failed miserably. Leading 14-12, Harrison's snap sailed over punter Mitch Berger's head and through the end zone for a safety.

Berger's ensuing free kick was returned to near midfield, and it took the New York Giants just seven plays to score the winning touchdown in a 21-14 win Sunday at Heinz Field.
So, much as some people might love to see his roster spot used elsewhere, as long as he can do what he does, he'll be a Patriot.
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:23 AM   #2
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Because this is what can happen when your long snapper is teh suck:



So, much as some people might love to see his roster spot used elsewhere, as long as he can do what he does, he'll be a Patriot.
why use a LB? Why not use the C as the backup long snapper? Makes no sense to me?
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I was thinking exactly the same thing as I watched Goober Jr & his team win that game.

Accurate long-snapping is as much art as skill, and it's a position that not many think about until bad things start to happen.

You can think of the FG/PAT as a three-man team" Long snapper, holder & kicker. Everyone talks about the kicker, but few discuss the other two, and to be frank, they are of equal importance. They are like a milking stool, for those old enough to remember what that is, a 3-legged stool. If one leg is out of kilter, or wobbly, or longer or shorter than the others, the stool tips over.

It's like that for these three players. No matter how good the kicker, if the center botches the snap, you won't score. No matter how well the snap, if the holder drops/bobbles the ball (see Tony Romo, playoffs, et al) you won't score. You can have a perfect snap, and textbook hold, and the kicker can shank it or smack the upright, etc.

We are fortunate to have had an excellent long snapper and good holders these past years. they are as much a part of Vinni's & Ghost's successes as the kickers themselves.

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If you watch Paxton, is always practcing on the sidelines, it is very hard for an every down player to turn around and long snap, they do not have time to get ready for the sanp.
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If you watch Paxton, is always practcing on the sidelines, it is very hard for an every down player to turn around and long snap, they do not have time to get ready for the sanp.
Come to think of it, though, since sending it through the end zone is also a safety, is there a specific reason--other than making a point--that Paxton hit the goalpost on the intentional safety against Denver?
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I'm not sure what that situation has to do with Lonnie Paxton. If the same situation happenned to the Pats, wouldn't Paxton be the one with the injury? Pitt has a long snapper, we have Paxton. Neither team is carrying a back-up long snapper.
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Come to think of it, though, since sending it through the end zone is also a safety, is there a specific reason--other than making a point--that Paxton hit the goalpost on the intentional safety against Denver?
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I'm not sure what that situation has to do with Lonnie Paxton. If the same situation happenned to the Pats, wouldn't Paxton be the one with the injury? Pitt has a long snapper, we have Paxton. Neither team is carrying a back-up long snapper.
The OP is referring to off again-on again arguments about the need to carry a longsnapper on roster at all and using the Pittsburgh injury to highlight the Pro-longsnapper side of the debate. Hochstein or Dave Thomas would be the most likely emergency long snappers if Lonnie went down - then the big Pioli machine woould grind into gear and find Lonnie's replacement.
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wasnt paxton injured in one of the sb teams during the season ? i think we had someone else snapping in SB 38 i believe.

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