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***Horace's Ivories*** · 08-30-2008, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimke

After giving a positive review of this roster, BB will probably cut the

young linebackers and bring back Monte Beisel and Chad Brown.

one can only dream....

captain stone · 08-30-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

If you kept two QB's as Gasper suggests in his column today one can't be O'Connell because he's way too raw as a pro or in this system and saw little time in pre season. And he won't make the PS. Gutz is eligible (which the media never mentions) and likely would, The tortured logic the media is applying to this situation leads me to believe Cassel kicked their collective puppy... I know they are by and large lemmings who follow the leader, but this lock step dismissal of Cassel out of hand while totally ignoring the AT LEAST equally disappointing showings by Gutierrez against second and third stringers is nearly comical. Matt must have pranked them and let the air out of some tires or something...not to mention Gutz must have towed them all to the shop gratis...

Gotta agree w/Mo here. There's no way that we can start the season with only Gutz & O'C as backups to The Franchise. WWCSD? Gutz to PS, if he makes it there. If he doesn't, then no real big loss. Cassel, or another vet, should be the #2; O'C the #3.

As for the rest of Reiss' Roster:

RB (5): no change.
WR (6): I would waive-injured/IR Sam Aiken and replace him with Ventrone.
TE (2): no change, though I would also look for a blocking specialist.
OL (8): I would add Welbourn and waive Yates, while looking for a 9th OLman (backup LT?) & PS candidates.
DL (6): no change, though backup NT & 4th DE could use an upgrade.
LB (9): I would replace Redd & Izzo with Hobson; Redd to PS - w/fingers crossed; Izzo to FO/Coaching Staff.
CB (5): I would add Lew Sanders - or another vet - and send Richardson to PS.
S (6): I would add Spann, or Sanders if another vet CB is added.

patsox23 · 08-30-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mgteich

I would rather have Hobson and Welbourne (or Spach) than Redd and Guyton.

Honestly, do you just post ridiculous crap like this to pi$$ us off?

Jimke · 08-30-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by patsox23

Honestly, do you just post ridiculous crap like this to pi$$ us off?

He would rather have Chad Brown and Monte Beisel than Redd and Guyton.

08-30-2008, 11:20 AM

"As far as DBs go, I think Spann and the other Sanders will also get strong consideration. Both showed up well in the PreSeason."

???? Which preseason was that?

Spann has been terrible

Really hoping Ventrone sticks, he's earned a spot.

DefenseRules · 08-30-2008, 11:30 AM

Does Mike know something we don't?

***patchick*** · 08-30-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by OhExaulted1

Yes, IR'ed shirted. Good call.

must...not...rant...again...

(slow, deep breaths)

DW Toys · 08-30-2008, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jefmblrd

I think Aiken would be great to keep for special teams but am unsure of his physical status. I agree that Ventrone seems to make things happen out there and would love to see him on this team, especially since he's one of those guys who could play defensive back in a pinch- just don't know where unless Aiken goes to IR as previously stated.

I like the idea of keeping Guyton; he's an interesting player with a lot of upside and great speed who should make some key special teams contributions this year.

How much value does Eric Alexander have to this team? I've seen him make some nice special teams plays (so that's probably my answer) but am not overly impressed with his LB play.

I also like the idea of getting rid of Cassel and keeping the other two QB's; he's got too much of that deer in the headlights thing going on to be successful if called upon.

You can't take valuable LB roster space with two "LBs" that can only play ST like Izzo and Alexander. One has to go. Agreed?
DW Toys

unoriginal · 08-30-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DW Toys

You can't take valuable LB roster space with two "LBs" that can only play ST like Izzo and Alexander. One has to go. Agreed?
DW Toys

Not when you have 10 LBs. You can spare 2 ST slots.

Not that I necessarily like it.

DW Toys · 08-30-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by captain stone

Gotta agree w/Mo here. There's no way that we can start the season with only Gutz & O'C as backups to The Franchise. WWCSD? Gutz to PS, if he makes it there. If he doesn't, then no real big loss. Cassel, or another vet, should be the #2; O'C the #3.

As for the rest of Reiss' Roster:

RB (5): no change.
WR (6): I would waive-injured/IR Sam Aiken and replace him with Ventrone.
TE (2): no change, though I would also look for a blocking specialist.
OL (8): I would add Welbourn and waive Yates, while looking for a 9th OLman (backup LT?) & PS candidates.
DL (6): no change, though backup NT & 4th DE could use an upgrade.
LB (9): I would replace Redd & Izzo with Hobson; Redd to PS - w/fingers crossed; Izzo to FO/Coaching Staff.
CB (5): I would add Lew Sanders - or another vet - and send Richardson to PS.
S (6): I would add Spann, or Sanders if another vet CB is added.

I agree on all up to LB. I think Redd has already made his case. Why would you take a chance in cutting him to get to PS? We tried that with Rogers last year and he is still with the Cowboys and all their talent. If anything, Alexander who is also a defensive liability.
I think they still need a pass rush DE and a vet CB or safety.
I firmly agree with you on Welbourn over Yates. Yates has looked terrible before he was injured.
DW Toys