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Old 01-30-2013, 06:08 PM   #61
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A couple of reasons. The first is that, at age 35, he may be too expensive for some people. We don't know that yet, but it's pretty much the assumption.

The second is that people like to be right. Before this season, there was a large contingent on this forum that were trying to convince themselves and anybody that would listen that Gregory was anything more than a JAG. Many of those same people are still of the opinion that Gregory would be fine next to McCourty.

As for me? I'd love to see Elam drafted. I'd also love it if the team brought Reed in. I'd probably die of a heart attack brought on by excitement if the team did both.
I hate people like that. A lot of people would rather have the team suffer and be right about something. I actually like Gregory, but he shouldn't be starting. Not a terrible player tho he got better as the season went along. Reed would be a huge upgrade. Don't know anything about Elam but he sounds pretty good from some post on here. Who knows maybe Glas-IR Dowling proves us all wrong and does something pleasant next season. Didn't a lot people say he had safety potential? Granted, he'd probably break himself trying to deliver a big hit.
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General thing for the most part. But Elam seems to have a better nose for the ball than Vacarro and was more active against more elite competition. Not sure how Vacarro is in coming up to defend the run (I only caught a handful of Texas games this season), but I know that Elam can do it and loves to do it. And, out of the two, Elam seems to be the more punishing hitter which is something, at least IMO, this secondary needs.

Not to mention Elam is a Gator.
I'd prefer William Moore than Ed Reed (given age). That said, if Ed Reed takes a team friendly contract and Elam fell to the Patriots, the offseason would be full of win.
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Is he serious or is he joking? It's almost as if he is making fun of BB.
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I'd prefer William Moore than Ed Reed (given age). That said, if Ed Reed takes a team friendly contract and Elam fell to the Patriots, the offseason would be full of win.
With the team's habit of filling needs with FA first and then drafting for the best position available (sometimes, last year was a huge bucking the trend) you gotta think Reed would be signed before even knowing if Elam is available.
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But in the playoffs a good team at 99% will not beat emotional, talented teams that play at 100%. It's what happened against the Giants in 2011 and the Ravens in 2012.
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How is anybody against this after the crap we've had at safety last few years? Dude can still play. Million times better than Gregory.
age and the $$ he will want..he won't take vet min...he was great back in the day..but i would rather have youth back there
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age and the $$ he will want..he won't take vet min...he was great back in the day..but i would rather have youth back there
young stud safety isn't easy to get. I'd rather take the old good player than the young scrub. I highly doubt you have someone like Sergio Brown in my mind. I mean if you can get Reed on a one year deal, not much harm done. He can teach the young guy how to play. A lot of us thought Josh Barrett was going to be good....so I'd rather have the sure thing back there. Especially with a team that is soo sooo close to winning it.
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With the team's habit of filling needs with FA first and then drafting for the best position available (sometimes, last year was a huge bucking the trend) you gotta think Reed would be signed before even knowing if Elam is available.
We are in agreement. My hope is that the team fills a need now and for the future. That's not to say I don't have faith in a draft pick coming in and doing the job, but I feel there's a need for some veteran leadership on D that will impact right now (given Brady's closing window).
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age and the $$ he will want..he won't take vet min...he was great back in the day..but i would rather have youth back there
I'd rather have confidence back there, no matter how old. I'm sick and tired of seeing DB's playing like deers caught in headlights, taking bad angles, giving too much of a cushion or playing poor technique because they're so scared of giving up the big play.
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I'd rather have confidence back there, no matter how old. I'm sick and tired of seeing DB's playing like deers caught in headlights, taking bad angles, giving too much of a cushion or playing poor technique because they're so scared of giving up the big play.
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I'd rather have confidence back there, no matter how old. I'm sick and tired of seeing DB's playing like deers caught in headlights, taking bad angles, giving too much of a cushion or playing poor technique because they're so scared of giving up the big play.
do you really think he would take vet min on a 1 year deal? Especially if the ravens win the SB?
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