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Who are "people"? It's one thing for people to say they want an upgrade, another to say to outright cut the guy as if a superior solution was already on the roster.
Has "people" reached critical mass to warrant its own thread?
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Lloyd is a victim of expectations. Many people expected him to be the 1,400 plus receiver he was in 2010 or something close to it. If Edelman put up the numbers Lloyd did, people would be talking about letting Welker go and replacing him with Edelman.
He is not going anywhere though. His salary is relatively cheap for a starting WR. He is a solid #2 WR (people are judging him as a #1 WR deep threat WR). He picks up a lot of first downs and his average YPC is second highest on the team of players who caught 40 or more balls. He is currently the only outside threat they have.
Lloyd is a victim of expectations. Many people expected him to be the 1,400 plus receiver he was in 2010 or something close to it. If Edelman put up the numbers Lloyd did, people would be talking about letting Welker go and replacing him with Edelman.
Usually love your insight, Rob0, but that is a bad analogy.
Lloyd doesn't do anything on Special Teams - - Edelman is a Special Teams ace and a far better Special Teamer than Welker..
Getting rid of Lloyd is just plain silly. One guy I know always comments that Lloyd always seems to be falling over while he catches the ball. Rarely does he catch the ball and stay on his feet. I've noticed that more and more myself, but the fact remains that he is still an effective receiver.
Our offense was the number one offense in the league. The offense is not the problem. Sure, I'm in favor of finding ways to improve it, but by getting rid of your 900 yard receiver who seemed more effective as the season went along IS NOT THE ANSWER.
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Great point, which boggles my mind, too. You would actually think he would be the BENFICIARY of expectations. After all, I would think that he would naturally be compared to Ocho from the year before in which it would be rather tough to NOT exceed expectations.
The grass is always greener on the other side. Some folks would prefer the Pats to be the Lions, because then they would get to watch Calvin Johnson every week and at the same time not be disappointed with a playoff loss.
(Warning: Completely flawed argument following but I just can't resist)
Brandon Lloyd had more receptions, yards, and as many TDs as Larry Fitzgerald this season, and I saw Fitzgerald playing in the Pro Bowl on Sunday. Therefore, Lloyd can't be as bad as people make him out to be.
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Usually love your insight, Rob0, but that is a bad analogy.
Lloyd doesn't do anything on Special Teams - - Edelman is a Special Teams ace and a far better Special Teamer than Welker..
Not saying that if Edelman put up the same numbers as Lloyd, Lloyd and Edelman would provide the same value to the team in terms of everything including special teams. I am saying that Edelman put up the same numbers as Lloyd, many of the same people who are trashing Lloyd for their production would be saying Edelman proved that he is good enough to replace Welker's production on offense.
74 catches, for 911 yards, and 4 TDs is very respectable numbers for a #2 WR in an offense with Gronk and Hernandez and a strong running game. The perception by many is that Lloyd is garbage. I am saying that if Edelman had the same numbers, people including the people who think Lloyd is garbage would be calling Edelman an emerging star.
Not saying that if Edelman put up the same numbers as Lloyd, Lloyd and Edelman would provide the same value to the team in terms of everything including special teams. I am saying that Edelman put up the same numbers as Lloyd, many of the same people who are trashing Lloyd for their production would be saying Edelman proved that he is good enough to replace Welker's production on offense.
74 catches, for 911 yards, and 4 TDs is very respectable numbers for a #2 WR in an offense with Gronk and Hernandez and a strong running game. The perception by many is that Lloyd is garbage. I am saying that if Edelman had the same numbers, people including the people who think Lloyd is garbage would be calling Edelman an emerging star.
I think, Rob, that peoples hate for Lloyd stem from his perceived lack of effort.
Which is silly. Just get the damn first down - and Lloyd does it.
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The Patriots have been overachievers the past two years. It doesn't have the talent to compensate for injuries, and it wins so much because it puts in 99% effort in the regular season and plays with terrific schemes to mask its deficiencies.
But in the playoffs a good team at 99% will not beat emotional, talented teams that play at 100%. It's what happened against the Giants in 2011 and the Ravens in 2012.
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re: Why do people want Brandon Lloyd cut?
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