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Old 01-27-2013, 09:32 PM   #101
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Hey, remember when this was a well informed thread with multiple posts from many different posters offering opinions that were well thought out?

Those were the days.
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I definitely understand the shortcomings of Talib. The biggest one is his ability (or lack thereof) to stay on the field.

But who do you suggest the Pats pursue if they don't re-sign Talib? You may have mentioned this in another thread and if you have, I apologize for not seeing it.
Keenan Lewis of the Pittsburgh Steelers is one alternative.

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Old 01-27-2013, 09:35 PM   #103
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Some people can't face the possibility that they are incorrect, or more importantly, the question they are addressing has no definitive answer.
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The Patriots have been overachievers the past two years. It doesn't have the talent to compensate for injuries, and it wins so much because it puts in 99% effort in the regular season and plays with terrific schemes to mask its deficiencies.

But in the playoffs a good team at 99% will not beat emotional, talented teams that play at 100%. It's what happened against the Giants in 2011 and the Ravens in 2012.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:41 PM   #104
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Some people can't face the possibility that they are incorrect, or more importantly, the question they are addressing has no definitive answer.
You should talk.

Instead of just talking didn't you go shoot a bunch a guys at some horse corral someplace?
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You should talk.

Instead of just talking didn't you go shoot a bunch a guys at some horse corral someplace?
but would the shooting have happened had you not been there? I think that is the important question.
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The Patriots have been overachievers the past two years. It doesn't have the talent to compensate for injuries, and it wins so much because it puts in 99% effort in the regular season and plays with terrific schemes to mask its deficiencies.

But in the playoffs a good team at 99% will not beat emotional, talented teams that play at 100%. It's what happened against the Giants in 2011 and the Ravens in 2012.
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Wes Welker targets = 174

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Wes Welker targets = 172
You are one year short in your post, Tip. What happened in 2010? A year where both Gronk and Hernandez were relatively healthy. I'd be interested in seeing that number. BTW- 2010 was one I was referring to. I acknowledged that the targets were similar in 2012 and 2011
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:01 PM   #108
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Great topic and plenty of well thought out opinions.
One thought and I don't know if it has been discussed is an even greater emphasis on the TE. Besides the obvious receiving threat Gronk is, we really missed his blocking skill and although we still had a "2 TE" offense with Hernandez and Hooman, Hernandez plays off the line mostly unless split out and Hooman is a weak blocker and offers no threat as receiver. I would like to see a good blocking TE that is a decent receiver. Jake Ballard anyone? Have 2 good blocking TE's along with Hernandez (who really isn't a TE and would be lined up all over) would be difficult to defend in both the running game and play-action. We certainly need some youth on the outside but history shows this offense is tough for college receivers to pick up and if Brady doesn't trust a receiver, the ball aint coming his way.
I still have a lot of faith in Edelman and believe his role will expand but I'm giddy thinking of 2 on-the-line TE's, one an all-pro and another a good blocker and a decent receiver.
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Welker would be best suited to go to Denver and play with Peyton. Both great regular season players that fold at the biggest time. Peyton could even blame Welker for dropping his wounded ducks.
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Welker would be best suited to go to Denver and play with Peyton. Both great regular season players that fold at the biggest time. Peyton could even blame Welker for dropping his wounded ducks.
You know, this sort of mentality really pisses me off. Wes Welker has been a fine Patriot and has performed at every level in the NFL. Let's zero in on Welker and not the other 10 offensive players on the field with him at any given time shall we?
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