I.M. Fletcher

Hey, remember when this was a well informed thread with multiple posts from many different posters offering opinions that were well thought out?

Those were the days.

ATippett56

Keenan Lewis of the Pittsburgh Steelers is one alternative.

Keenan Lewis, CB for the Pittsburgh Steelers at NFL.com

2012 NFL Season - 23 Passes Defensed

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DocHoliday

Some people can't face the possibility that they are incorrect, or more importantly, the question they are addressing has no definitive answer.

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PatsWickedPissah

You should talk.

Instead of just talking didn't you go shoot a bunch a guys at some horse corral someplace?

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I.M. Fletcher

but would the shooting have happened had you not been there? I think that is the important question.

DocHoliday

There were gambling debts to be settled

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patfanken

You are one year short in your post, Tip. What happened in 2010? A year where both Gronk and Hernandez were relatively healthy. I'd be interested in seeing that number. BTW- 2010 was one I was referring to. I acknowledged that the targets were similar in 2012 and 2011

SacPete1

Great topic and plenty of well thought out opinions.
One thought and I don't know if it has been discussed is an even greater emphasis on the TE. Besides the obvious receiving threat Gronk is, we really missed his blocking skill and although we still had a "2 TE" offense with Hernandez and Hooman, Hernandez plays off the line mostly unless split out and Hooman is a weak blocker and offers no threat as receiver. I would like to see a good blocking TE that is a decent receiver. Jake Ballard anyone? Have 2 good blocking TE's along with Hernandez (who really isn't a TE and would be lined up all over) would be difficult to defend in both the running game and play-action. We certainly need some youth on the outside but history shows this offense is tough for college receivers to pick up and if Brady doesn't trust a receiver, the ball aint coming his way.
I still have a lot of faith in Edelman and believe his role will expand but I'm giddy thinking of 2 on-the-line TE's, one an all-pro and another a good blocker and a decent receiver.

bradytovereen

Welker would be best suited to go to Denver and play with Peyton. Both great regular season players that fold at the biggest time. Peyton could even blame Welker for dropping his wounded ducks.

ausbacker

You know, this sort of mentality really pisses me off. Wes Welker has been a fine Patriot and has performed at every level in the NFL. Let's zero in on Welker and not the other 10 offensive players on the field with him at any given time shall we?