DocHoliday

People always talk about Brady not being in sync with rookie receivers but I honestly think it has something at least to do with his lack of trying.

He doesn't really care to get involved with new receivers since its been a long time any of them were expected to be WR1 or WR2. Think Tate - a clear WR3 that Brady didn't really spend too too much time developing chemistry with.

Brady does every now and then focus on a receiver - he practiced one on one with Edelman a bit in the offseason and it showed.

I think if you give Brady a first or second round pick WR who was expected to produce day one (not, in other words, some depth for the future) he'll practice and train them like Manning did Thomas and Decker this year.

They won't be as good as year 2 or year 3 starters but certainly better than 'not contributing'.

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supafly

Decker was actually very impressive at the University of Minnesota. I think that going in the 3rd round was pretty spot on as to where he should have gone.

Regardless it was a good pick, and hopefully they can find someone in April.

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Deus Irae

I freakin' loved that pick. He was reportedly running sub 4.4 40s before his injury. All he needed was some seasoning in a pro offense, and now he's a monster. That draft was a great one for the Broncos.*

Thomas (starting WR)
Tebow (backup for the Jets, better than their starter )
Beadles (starting guard)
Walton (starting center)
Decker (starting WR)
Cox (backup/nickel cb for 49ers)
Olsen (backup for the Saints, got 4 starts this season)

*Whether you're a Tebow fan or not, that's a hell of a solid draft for a guy who was shown the door in a year and a half.

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supafly

All fair points. My concern isn't necessarily the rookie WR not contributing at all, it is more about the rookie WR not contributing to the level that we'd need.

Of course that level of need may not be quite what I'm expecting it to be either, especially if Welker is retained.

One of the problems with the rookie WRs has been the complexity of the offense (in my opinion), as they have to spend a longer period of simply learning the playbook and all of the read/react options of knowing just about everything about where all the players need to be.

We've seen plenty of instances where that receiver didn't even know where to be on a consistent enough basis.

I also think that may have something to do with the actual selection too, as Belichick is going to certainly want someone smart enough to know all of those specifics, and that limits the sheer "talent" aspect of everything. That certainly limits some of the aspects of the WR pick itself. It's a difficult position to select for a rookie WR in my opinion.

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supafly

See that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about in terms of the selection itself being more difficult simply based on their current methods.

I think the concern about D.Thomas was that he worked in an option style running attack, where he didn't see enough complex looks and the basis of the offense may not equate into a decent enough example of an NFL setting.

They either need to go for an all-out changeup of what they look for (not likely) or at least lessen the reigns a bit on the specifics of what kind of guy may be able to produce.

Thomas is an excellent example of someone who had awesome meaurables and great potential of talent, yet probably didn't show them enough of what they needed to consider taking him in terms of smarts and adaptibility to this kind of offense.

Maybe McDaniels does have more input this time if that's the way they go, although we don't know how much his talent evaluation vs luck came into play either?

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It was the same with Stephen Hill, whom the Jets drafted. If they can get that kid to run crisper routes and catch the ball cleaner, they're going to have a guy who's 6'4", 220+lbs and runs in the 4.3s making Mark Sanchez or his successor look a hell of a lot better than he really is.

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Joey007

How about Mohammed Massaquoi. The guy was a 2nd round pick in 2009. Had a good rookie year, but his play has slowly decreased since. He's 6'2, so he has decent size as well. What QB's has he had in Cleveland, McCoy? I'd say he'd at least be worth giving a shot at camp.

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Joker

ahem...Paul Warfield and Jerry Rice in their primes couldn't make Murk Sanchez look any better than he is, was or will ever be...thanx, Jet Hater Capital Mgmt Group....

Deus Irae

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fumbrunner

Agreed. and if the pats can land someone with those measurements, who could step into the line up in a year or two, that would be the way to go.

In reality, the Pats had one of the top offenses in history with a) a starting WR injured for the majority of the year and b)TE injuries to both Hernandez and Gronk.

I'd rather take the $5mill+ some of these FAs are asking for and invest that elsewhere.

I wasn't a big fan of Edelman, but he intrigued me this year. He might be short, but plays bigger than his size.