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First of all, the offense is predicated on short to medium routes, with lots of rubs and slants, with the occasional post routes by our TEs. It is the nature of the offense and it isn't going to change to a more vertical style.
Second, Brady does not have a good deep ball. Never has. It's just not his strength. And pleas dont point to 2007, because Moss comes around once in a lifetime. How many catches did he make in double and triple coverage? Overthrown, underthrown balls? Tons.
Wether it was bethel johnson, or stallworth, we have had burners on this team and they were marginal contributors.
What the Pats need is a physical, go get em receiver that could make plays in the medium range routes. A Boldin type, for example. Or a dez bryant-type with his head screwed on right. Now that is something that has been missing in the past decade.
Couldn't agree more.
Many here felt like Llyod was going to be that receiver, but wasn't used in that role too much.
The search continues, but it won't be easy.
Still, in seeing the fact that we were within the last 2 teams last year, and the last 3 teams this year, I am not totally buying into the fact that we can't win without the kind of WR that everyone wants; especially seeing that we were inside the BAL 35 yd line (basically FG range on most given days) EIGHT times on Sunday and only came away with 13 points. That isn't going to happen too often.
The game was lost in the last 14 minutes in the last quarter, and that was more about the lack of defensive pass coverage than it was the sputtering on offense. If the defense holds, the offense very well could have still won the game, no doubt about it. It's a team game and both sides are to blame on some level, but we still need to figure out how to win close defensive battles too.
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Hernandez isnt a WR.
That would be like taking a dominant fighter who is the quickest and most agile in his class with average at best power for his class and moving him down 2 weight classes so everyone he fights is much quicker, and he isn't much more powerful. Bad plan all around.
One can say that brady could be suffering froma dead arm, but i don't want to go that far.
I just think that the offense is tailored to everyone's strengths, and is predicated on more of a mental, chess-type game that takes advantages of personnel, mismatches, and scheme designs.
Brady is able to get rid of the ball quicker, with a high percentage of accurate throws and completions. The receivers are able to take advantage of mismatches in one-on-one situations via the middle of the field, and we have developed a better balance by running the ball more, and effectively to boot (more important).
It not only tailors Brady's strengths, but it also makes up for lack of strengths too. This type of offense takes something off the offensive line at times, allows Brady to get hit less, cuts down on turnovers, and hides his deep ball weaknesses.
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I just think that the offense is tailored to everyone's strengths, and is predicated on more of a mental, chess-type game that takes advantages of personnel, mismatches, and scheme designs.
Brady is able to get rid of the ball quicker, with a high percentage of accurate throws and completions. The receivers are able to take advantage of mismatches in one-on-one situations via the middle of the field, and we have developed a better balance by running the ball more, and effectively to boot (more important).
It not only tailors Brady's strengths, but it also makes up for lack of strengths too. This type of offense takes something off the offensive line at times, allows Brady to get hit less, cuts down on turnovers, and hides his deep ball weaknesses.
You don't think the passing game requires too many things to go right in order to succeed? The offense looks harder than any other offense in the league. It's strange to see brady with no pressure on him unable to find anyone open.
Or maybe teams have caught up to the patriots short passing game.
You don't think the passing game requires too many things to go right in order to succeed? The offense looks harder than any other offense in the league. It's strange to see brady with no pressure on him unable to find anyone open.
Or maybe teams have caught up to the patriots short passing game.
We just had one of the top 5 seasons of any offense in NFL history.
We scored 41 points in round 1.
We lost because we stalled inside the 25, 6 trips, 13 points, after rolling up 428 yards of offense.
I don't know what you are watching.
We just had one of the top 5 seasons of any offense in NFL history.
We scored 41 points in round 1.
We lost because we stalled inside the 25, 6 trips, 13 points, after rolling up 428 yards of offense.
I don't know what you are watching.
ThaT'S EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN!!
You don't think the short passing game require perfect precision and perfect route running?
All it takes is one thing to throw the synchronization of the offense and the whole play is busted. The jets figured that out in 2010
Good teams can take away the short passing game and force Brady to do riskier, harder outside throws.
Nothing new here
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The Patriots have been overachievers the past two years. It doesn't have the talent to compensate for injuries, and it wins so much because it puts in 99% effort in the regular season and plays with terrific schemes to mask its deficiencies.
But in the playoffs a good team at 99% will not beat emotional, talented teams that play at 100%. It's what happened against the Giants in 2011 and the Ravens in 2012.
Good teams can take away the short passing game and force Brady to do riskier, harder outside throws.
Nothing new here
Very true.
That said, I'm not totally sure that BAL did that as effectively as many are claiming. It isn't everyday that you see Brady make the kind of mental error that he made at the end of the half, which should have led to at least another play at the EZ, if not two, before the FG attempt.
It very well could have been 17-7. Even still, it was 13-7 and the Pats looked to be in control.
Had Welker caught the 3rd down ball right in his hands on the opening drive of the 3rd quarter, it could have been a whole different game. Actually, it certainly would've been a whole different game.
There's also the wind factor, which forced us to punt 2x inside the BAL 35 yd line, which is normally FG range. The fact that they racked up a ton of yardage and had the ball inside BAL's 35 a whopping 8 times says a lot to me in terms of having success moving the ball, just not cashing it in.
With 14 minutes remaining in the game, the score was still 14-13. So for 75% of the game the Pats were right there. It wasn't until the defensive collapse which allowed Baltimore to start to control the game...then came the unlucky bounces and plays, tipped balls, etc, which are usually a staple of Patriot losses.
In other words, I agree that a deep threat would be nice, but I also think it's a bit unrealistic in terms of allowing Belichick to keep the team together in its proper way + retain some of our key FA's.
Anything can happen. We can potentially double up at WR (not likely, but possible) by trading down for an extra pick or two, and we can also pick up a FA WR, a UDFA, and/or another team's castoff WR. There has to be a viable way to utilize some type of more physical, faster WR's talents in this offense without breaking the bank or setting us back cap-wise.
Or, we can make as many improvements as possible in other areas, and also remain extremely competitive which will allow us yet another playoff possibility next winter, which may be more likely. I'm hoping they find a way to do both by lucking out on a WR that isn't exactly bank breaking.
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An analysis of Markus Wheaton of Oregon State at the Senior Bowl:
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Markus Wheaton: Wheaton had initial trouble getting on top of the defender with his first two reps in the cone drill. He also was a little rough through his breaks on an out-and-up, but earned separation with his speed up the boundary. Unlike several of the receivers on either squad, Wheaton has a knack for getting position on a defender after his break. He made a nice catch on a slant, got strong position on a hook after his break, and for the second time in two days, displayed good technique on a deep fade where he caught the ball over his shoulder at the boundary. On five-on-sevens, Wheaton engaged in some trash talking with Washington corner Desmond Trufant, who asked the coaches to allow him to cut in line and take on the receiver. Wheaton promptly spanked Trufant on a deep streak up the right sideline with a nice move early in the route to slide outside and then buy position. Mike Glennon made the deep throw, hitting Wheaton in stride.
We've apparently shown previous interest in him, he's a team captain, looks good value as a 2nd round pick, beat Deanthony Thomas in a 100m sprint, had over 1,000 yards and 90 catches last season and when you watch him interviewed, he's both articulate and humble. Would have no problem buying in to the Patriot-way.
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