Reiss 8/7/07 PC wrap-up

[Flying Fungi]

Good things about Koppen.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

 

[BelichickFan]

Re: Reiss 08/07/07 PC wrap up

One nugget from Belichick that stood out: In his 33 years coaching in the NFL, he hasn’t been around a center that is better at making line calls than Dan Koppen.

That's kind of a strong statement

 

[DaBruinz]

Re: Reiss 08/07/07 PC wrap up

Considering that he's been around guys like Kevin Mawae, that is saying a LOT.

 

[37Harrison]

Re: Reiss 08/07/07 PC wrap up

That is a VERY strong statement from BB. I love it, giving the grunts some luv too!

 

[Flying Fungi]

Re: Reiss 08/07/07 PC wrap up

Considering that he's been around guys like Kevin Mawae, that is saying a LOT.

fwiw...the regular season list of Centers that have played on teams for which BB has been employed as a coach or assistant...as parsed from jt-sw...

Patriots
Mike Compton
Damien Woody
Grey Ruegamer
Jeff Dellenbach
Dave Wohlabaugh
Gener Mruczkowski

Jets
Mawae
Mike Gisler
John Hudson
Casey Wiegmann
Roger Duffy

Browns
Mike Baab
Jay Hilgenberg
Chris Thome
Lance Zeno
Steve Everitt
Wally Williams

Giants
Bart Oates
Brian Williams
Frank Winters
Brad Benson
Brian Johnston
Chris Jones
Conrad Goode
Chris Foote
Ernie Hughes
Al Steinfeld
Rich Umphrey

Lions
Jon Morris
Mark Markovich

Broncos
Bill Bryan
Glenn Hyde
Bobby Maples

B'More Colts
Forrest Blue
Ken Mendenhall

 

[zippo59]

Re: Reiss 08/07/07 PC wrap up

Koppen is one of the most underrated players on the team.

It seems like O-linemen only get noticed if they are first round picks.

 

[psychoPat]

Re: Reiss 08/07/07 PC wrap up

That's kind of a strong statement

Yah, wadduz he know?
I'd withhold judgment until i heard what
Felger or Guregian think about him.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Re: Reiss 08/07/07 PC wrap up

It seems like O-linemen only get noticed if they are first round picks.

Or if they screw up... but being a cynic I'll note that had Koppen not recently been re-upped BB would have kept his mouth shut about him so as not to drive up his price.

No doubt Koppen could have also gotten more on the open market - it's smart for BB to be vocally supportive of guys that put team first as well.

 

[DarrylS]

Re: Reiss 08/07/07 PC wrap up

fwiw...the regular season list of Centers that have played on teams for which BB has been employed as a coach or assistant...as parsed from jt-sw...

Patriots
Mike Compton
Damien Woody
Grey Ruegamer
Jeff Dellenbach
Dave Wohlabaugh
Gener Mruczkowski

Jets
Mawae
Mike Gisler
John Hudson
Casey Wiegmann
Roger Duffy

Browns
Mike Baab
Jay Hilgenberg
Chris Thome
Lance Zeno
Steve Everitt
Wally Williams

Giants
Bart Oates
Brian Williams
Frank Winters
Brad Benson
Brian Johnston
Chris Jones
Conrad Goode
Chris Foote
Ernie Hughes
Al Steinfeld
Rich Umphrey

Lions
Jon Morris
Mark Markovich

Broncos
Bill Bryan
Glenn Hyde
Bobby Maples

B'More Colts
Forrest Blue
Ken Mendenhall

Nice work, to have said what he said about Koppen is high praise indeed.

 

[captain stone]

Re: Reiss 08/07/07 PC wrap-up

One of the best personnel sequences of the BB/SP regime: drafting Koppen in the 5th round of the '03 draft; then allowing Damien Woody to sign as an UFA with the Lions for stupid money after the '03 season. Position upgrade at considerable savings: it doesn't get much better than that.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Re: Reiss 08/07/07 PC wrap-up

One of the best personnel sequences of the BB/SP regime: drafting Koppen in the 5th round of the '03 draft; then allowing Damien Woody to sign as an UFA with the Lions for stupid money after the '03 season. Position upgrade at considerable savings: it doesn't get much better than that.

Plus Kops can LONG SNAP! Remember?

EDIT: DUH!!!! SHOTGUN snap
(see post 13)

 

[Flying Fungi]

Re: Reiss 08/07/07 PC wrap-up

Plus Kops can LONG SNAP! Remember?

funny thing when assembling the list above--Woody wasn't listed as a C on any of the historical rosters (neither was Hochstein)...but Lonie Paxton was...

apparently history is absolving Woody from his snaptastic inadequacies...

 

[psychoPat]

Re: Reiss 08/07/07 PC wrap-up

Plus Kops can LONG SNAP! Remember?

Poor Damien couldn't SHOTGUN-snap
... never mind long-snap.

 

[captain stone]

Re: Reiss 08/07/07 PC wrap-up

Poor Damien couldn't SHOTGUN-snap
... never mind long-snap.

Before Mike Compton arrived for 2001, who handled shotgun duties in 1999 and 2000? Was it Woody? Heath Irwin? Jason Anderson? Grey Ruegamer?