lancerman
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This is kinda of crazy logic though. Like yeah if you apply the death penalty to a bunch of non violent crimes then yeah people who aren't hardened criminals are going to be afraid of it. But it's not a deterrent for people who are already willing to murder.I think the real reason it is lacking in deterrence is that it is only used for the most serious murders. Most people just don't find themselves in a situation where they are going gruesomely murder someone very often.
If we said you get 3 DWIs you get executed it, and actually did within a reasonable period of time I bet it would be more of a deterrent. And since DWIs tend to be a lot harder to be wrongly convicted of it, and you have to do it 3 times it pretty much eliminates most of the good arguments against capital punishment.
America is the 55th ranked country when it comes to homicide. Aside from Russia, it's the highest of first world countries. It has the death penalty.
Almost all of Europe has the death penalty abolished. The US homicide rate is 6x higher than France, Finland, UK, Greece, Sweden, Denmark, Austria, Hungary, Ireland, Croatia, Czech, Germany, Netherlands, Portugal, Poland, Slovakia, Spain, Norway, Slovenia, Iceland, Italy, Switzerland, Malta.
If it were that much of a deterrent, you would think that countries that don't have the death penalty wouldn't be wildly outperforming the US in terms of homicides. Especially in comparable first world countries.
ON TOP OF THAT, we have such an extensive process to make sure that we get the death penalty right, with exaustive appeals and high standards, to the point where it literally costs more to execute someone than to keep them in prison for life. In yet, we know for a fact we still execute people who turn out to be innocent.
It's just a failed process. We can't even guarantee everyone we execute is guilty, despite being one of the few first world countries with the death penalty we don't have a lower homicide rate, and frankly aren't close. If we are moving to "let's lower the standard for what we execute for" maybe we should just realize it's not getting the intended outcome and has more problems than it solves.