OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

TheRainMaker said:

They were actually going to settle in the beginning, but Brown took it back because he felt he was innocent and wanted to fight it.

And there's been some digging on her back when this all happened that she was broke and was pissed Brown didn't give her money to open a gym.

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I mean even AB’s worst enemy knew she just wanted money

KontradictioN said:

I’ll say it right now - the Bucs play like they did today, and the Packers will get clapped. Again.

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Ya if they attack Rodgers like that again he’ll collapse as usual. Also GB can’t pressure and stop the run game while playing there safeties deep like NO can

Run DMC said:

I am still on such an adrenaline high from yet another Brady playoff win. THE GREATEST ATHLETE IN THE HISTORY OF BOSTON SPORTS! I LOVE LOVE LOVE WATCHING THIS GUY PLAY FOOTBALL! And I will never never ever forgive sub .500 arrogant prick Bellichick for running my football hero out of town. Bill and cheapskate perv Krafty Bob can eat a bag of d(%ks for their hubris, Sucks for us Pats fans, he should've retired a Patriot but I will always love watching this guy play ball. Unreal. THE GOAT!!!

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PREACH!!

Brady vs Buffalo in the SB? I’d like to see Buffalo win one but not yet.

Get the feeling the Bucs O wont be gifted 4 turnovers vs. the Packers like they were against the Saints. Hopefully the offense comes ready to go.

i wonder what Sean Payton is thinking right now knowing that he was about to sign Brady but Brees got word of it and came back

CMH said:

**** the Krafts and Belichck so hard for making Tom leave. ****ing disgraceful. 40TDs and one game from the SB vs 5TD worst QB in the league. Knew it would be rough post Brady, but this is out of hand. This franchise deserves to be ****ed in the ass for years to come for forcing Brady out. Sick to my stomach is an understatement.

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Back away from the ledge. We are the only fan base on the planet who can complain about losing a six time super bowl champion.

Just focus on the fact that we've had the best twenty year run of any fan base of any sport.

TheRainMaker said:

Anyone notice Antoine Winfield Jr. making a huge play and forcing a fumble that the Bucs recovered? This is the type of s*** Dugger needs to do then just simply make a tackle. That's not good enough! I understand they play different positions, but the point remains that Winfield and Chinn are making game changing plays, while being taken AFTER Dugger. This is just another example of what Bill needs to stop doing with the drafts.

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I guess I would say that at least a lot of times Duggar MADE the Tackle. How many half as$ed tackles or sloppy tackling did we have this season....it was awful

Brick27 said:

Get the feeling the Bucs O wont be gifted 4 turnovers vs. the Packers like they were against the Saints. Hopefully the offense comes ready to go.

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The turnovers were not gifted, they were forced. The strip of the TE was the play of the playoffs.

Second, Rodgers threw basically 2 pick sixes the last time they played and quit at halftime because Suh made him cry again. This is the perfect match up for Tampa to dominate again.

Brick27 said:

Get the feeling the Bucs O wont be gifted 4 turnovers vs. the Packers like they were against the Saints. Hopefully the offense comes ready to go.

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I get the feeling GB defense isn’t close to the Saints defense

It is amazing how their D can be good when they don’t play zone!

ArchAngel007 said:

I really want to see the anti-Brady peep say something now. "Bucs were 1-5 vs Playoff teams" GTFO

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That was fake news all along.
The team that had the easiest schedule in the entire NYFL this year was the Green Bay Packers. That was after having the sixth easiest last year.
Who would a fan of the Packers rather see come to GB next week, Tom Brady or Drew Brees? Anyone who says Brady is a fool.

KontradictioN said:

@Rob0729 could you give us another top 5, maybe? Only two of your top 5 remain, and one of them is concussed.

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You thought Brady played like a top 5 QB yesterday? I love how you want to trash talk in a game where the Bucs' defense had to bail out the offense that struggled the entire game. If the Bucs didn't turnover the Saints so many times yesterday, Brady would be out of the playoffs.

I stand by my point that Brady is on the decline and is now at the top of the second tier of QBs. Nothing that happened yesterday disproved that.
And I don't get how you rate QB based on how far they go in the playoffs. By your standard, Trent Dilfer was the best QB in 2000 when even at his best during his career, he was a ok game manager. Deshaun Watson was better than Brady this year and he didn't even sniff the playoffs. Why? Because Watson was one of the only good things on the Texans this year. And a once in a lifetime QB like Brady at his prime could carry a team into the playoffs, a top tier QB cannot. Dan Marino was one of the best QBs of all time and his playoff record is abysmal (8-10).

I don't get why you are obsessed with not accepting that Brady has slipped a bit. I never said he has fallen off the map. He has awesome weapons this year. He has two Pro Bowl/All Pro WRs (although Brown isn't the guy he was in Pittsburgh anymore and took some time to get back into playing shape) and a WR who had 1,300 yards in 2019. Brady hasn't had so much talent around him since possibly 2007.

TB12TheGoat said:

i wonder what Sean Payton is thinking right now knowing that he was about to sign Brady but Brees got word of it and came back

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I wonder what Bill Belichick is thinking now seeing that the GOAT QB he chased out of town is back in a conference championship game.

Rob0729 said:

You thought Brady played like a top 5 QB yesterday? I love how you want to trash talk in a game where the Bucs' defense had to bail out the offense that struggled the entire game. If the Bucs didn't turnover the Saints so many times yesterday, Brady would be out of the playoffs.

I stand by my point that Brady is on the decline and is now at the top of the second tier of QBs. Nothing that happened yesterday disproved that.
And I don't get how you rate QB based on how far they go in the playoffs. By your standard, Trent Dilfer was the best QB in 2000 when even at his best during his career, he was a ok game manager. Deshaun Watson was better than Brady this year and he didn't even sniff the playoffs. Why? Because Watson was one of the only good things on the Texans this year. And a once in a lifetime QB like Brady at his prime could carry a team into the playoffs, a top tier QB cannot. Dan Marino was one of the best QBs of all time and his playoff record is abysmal (8-10).

I don't get why you are obsessed with not accepting that Brady has slipped a bit. I never said he has fallen off the map. He has awesome weapons this year. He has two Pro Bowl/All Pro WRs (although Brown isn't the guy he was in Pittsburgh anymore and took some time to get back into playing shape) and a WR who had 1,300 yards in 2019. Brady hasn't had so much talent around him since possibly 2007.

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Brady is still a top 5 QB. Who has been better than him this year? Rodgers, Mahomes and Allen, that’s it.

did Rodgers played like an MVP against TB and MIN this year? Sometimes, you only need to play good enough. The D played well yesterday but overall this year the O needed to bail the D more often than the other way around.

Brady was not as bad as you make it sounds like. I agree that the O has made to many mistakes and this games should not have been close. TB should have won like 37-10. The D played good but they had let down at key moments. The tricks play was horrendous, you just take the lead and you have all the momentum and Davids gave it way not doing is job. The Godwin drop to go 17-13 at the half was huge and combined with the first drive of the 3rd quarter, it could have been a back breaker.

Rob0729 said:

You thought Brady played like a top 5 QB yesterday? I love how you want to trash talk in a game where the Bucs' defense had to bail out the offense that struggled the entire game. If the Bucs didn't turnover the Saints so many times yesterday, Brady would be out of the playoffs.

I stand by my point that Brady is on the decline and is now at the top of the second tier of QBs. Nothing that happened yesterday disproved that.
And I don't get how you rate QB based on how far they go in the playoffs. By your standard, Trent Dilfer was the best QB in 2000 when even at his best during his career, he was a ok game manager. Deshaun Watson was better than Brady this year and he didn't even sniff the playoffs. Why? Because Watson was one of the only good things on the Texans this year. And a once in a lifetime QB like Brady at his prime could carry a team into the playoffs, a top tier QB cannot. Dan Marino was one of the best QBs of all time and his playoff record is abysmal (8-10).

I don't get why you are obsessed with not accepting that Brady has slipped a bit. I never said he has fallen off the map. He has awesome weapons this year. He has two Pro Bowl/All Pro WRs (although Brown isn't the guy he was in Pittsburgh anymore and took some time to get back into playing shape) and a WR who had 1,300 yards in 2019. Brady hasn't had so much talent around him since possibly 2007.

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Having great weapons doesn’t mean the guy can’t make a big time throw or can’t lead team down the field. That throw to scotty miller was on point. Last year he had one of the worse units in the NFL. Let’s face it. It wasn’t about brady declining. This Bucs offense has been inconsistent at best at times. Drops etc. Getting to an NFC championship is a great year anyway you look at it.

At first I thought it was funny seeing Pats fans looking like our opponents' weepy fans that Brady left in his wake. Now it's kind of sad. The guy gave us the best 20 years that any two QBs have given their teams in NYFL history and now we have fans trying to crap on his accomplishments. They didn't deserve Brady.

Two consecutive 55% pass completion games for Tompa

Wins over.....
A 7 win team with a CFL back up in the league for 1 month
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A completely broken QB with 11 broken ribs and a punctured lung who could only muster 3 yd passes....who had no business playing, especially in the 2nd half but his backup was inactive and the coach didn't have the guts to yank him and try to win the game with Winston

Sure....wins are wins and that's all that matters this time of year

But lets not pretend Brady is playing great and beating All-World teams
By my count, Tampa has gone up against 2 disfunctional offenses
Timing is everything
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On another note.......
Given the Saints roster/cap issues next year, the Bucs will walk away with that division

Rob0729 said:

You thought Brady played like a top 5 QB yesterday? I love how you want to trash talk in a game where the Bucs' defense had to bail out the offense that struggled the entire game. If the Bucs didn't turnover the Saints so many times yesterday, Brady would be out of the playoffs.

I stand by my point that Brady is on the decline and is now at the top of the second tier of QBs. Nothing that happened yesterday disproved that.
And I don't get how you rate QB based on how far they go in the playoffs. By your standard, Trent Dilfer was the best QB in 2000 when even at his best during his career, he was a ok game manager. Deshaun Watson was better than Brady this year and he didn't even sniff the playoffs. Why? Because Watson was one of the only good things on the Texans this year. And a once in a lifetime QB like Brady at his prime could carry a team into the playoffs, a top tier QB cannot. Dan Marino was one of the best QBs of all time and his playoff record is abysmal (8-10).

I don't get why you are obsessed with not accepting that Brady has slipped a bit. I never said he has fallen off the map. He has awesome weapons this year. He has two Pro Bowl/All Pro WRs (although Brown isn't the guy he was in Pittsburgh anymore and took some time to get back into playing shape) and a WR who had 1,300 yards in 2019. Brady hasn't had so much talent around him since possibly 2007.

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You had Big Ben in your top 5 and then wanted to sub him out for Watson.

borg said:

Two consecutive 55% pass completion games for Tompa

Wins over.....
A 7 win team with a CFL back up in the league for 1 month
and
A completely broken QB with 11 broken ribs and a punctured lung who could only muster 3 yd passes....who had no business playing, especially in the 2nd half but his backup was inactive and the coach didn't have the guts to yank him and try to win the game with Winston

Sure....wins are wins and that's all that matters this time of year

But lets not pretend Brady is playing great and beating All-World teams
By my count, Tampa has gone up against 2 disfunctional offenses
Timing is everything
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On another note.......
Given the Saints roster/cap issues next year, the Bucs will walk away with that division

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Two games vs two disfuncional offenses yet the defenses from those two teams were the ones who can slow the Bucs down yet they put 30 pts on each one...The remaining defenses left the Packers and Bills/Chiefs although way better offenses, can easily be shredded by the Bucs offense. all about matchups and more often than not a TB12 led team wins