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    Could Flowers, Grissom and R. Johnson threaten C. Jones' future with the Pats?

    The key with Chandler is health. In his one healthy season from start to finish he had 11.5 sacks, and was on a decent pace in his 2 other seasons prior to getting hurt. We were begging for a pass rusher for years between the end of Colvin/McGinest/Vrabel up until the Jones/Nink emergence, I...
  2. M

    Bring back Kenbrell!

    Kenbrell Thompkins has caught a grand total of 45% of his targets in his career, and he's been sub 50% in both of his spots. He stumbles in his routes, has no idea how to alter his routes, has poor hands, is a marginal NFL athlete, and is already 27. There are going to be dozens of receivers cut...
  3. M

    Aaron Dobson

    I'm not going to lose sleep over Tillman stealing the ball from Dobson. That's what he does, and is one of the best ever at it. It's like getting angry at a safety for not being able to pull down Gronk. Did it suck? Sure, but there aren't a ton of Tillman's out there who are going to make...
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    And then there's this guy (our new safety, Jordan Richards)

    Last one I promise... Maybe haha After having watched hundreds of these plays I say with absolute confidence that how Harmon played it is how he's coached to, and it makes sense. You as the viewer have the added benefit of knowing when and where Wilson is going to throw the ball. All Harmon...
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    And then there's this guy (our new safety, Jordan Richards)

    Harmon's break begins at the 15, he identifies very quickly that the pass is going right. However, when you open your hips your momentum doesn't immediately make you go parallel, and if he did go parallel and Wilson throws an arching pass he's not going to get there. He's exactly where he should...
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    And then there's this guy (our new safety, Jordan Richards)

    I'll make a gif when I get home. If you're seeing the play as it occured there is virtually no criticism of Harmon on the play. He played it exactly as he should have.
  7. M

    And then there's this guy (our new safety, Jordan Richards)

    The 20 yard alignment presnap and 10 yard drop from our cover 1 safety is standard for virtually every passing play in that shell. Harmon did exactly what he was supposed to on that play. He actually correctly read the QB's eyes and opened his hips at the 15 and started to close on the ball. If...
  8. M

    And then there's this guy (our new safety, Jordan Richards)

    Actually Harmon played the Kearse play exactly as he should have. His primary alignment was just to the left off of center about 20 yards off the ball and the guy on the slot ran a up route up the left side. Had Harmon broken to cover Kearse earlier he would have given a clean shot to the slot...
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    And then there's this guy (our new safety, Jordan Richards)

    I'd disagree strongly, if you're going to play deep safety at some point you're going to take some wrong steps. McCourty did it 3 times I can remember last season that led to some big plays against the Seahawks, Packers, and Broncos. Harmon in all the coaches tape I saw from last season was...
  10. M

    And then there's this guy (our new safety, Jordan Richards)

    Harmon is basically the definition of consistent. You can slam him for being limited athletically, or not being versatile enough to play safety in the same way we play Chung or McCourty at times, but he's most definitely consistent in his deep safety role. I think there is a bit of recency bias...
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    Pro Footballl Focus top 10 QB

    There is also a ton of variability in assignments, and a service like Pro Football focus tries to treat every snap as equivalent. For example a year ago both Talib and Alterraun Verner were free agents. Statistically based off of PFF Verner blew Talib away, was 3 years younger, and had no...
  12. M

    How does Belichick and his staff rate at drafting wide receivers?

    Here you're almost there let me fill you in on the rest: Lloyd's AV in 2010 vs. 2012 12 vs. 10 What were Lloyd's stats in those years? 2010: 77 catches on 153 targets 1448 yards 11 TD's 2012: 74 catches on 131 targets 911 yards 4 TD's Is it fair to say that Lloyd's 2010 in Denver was better...
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    How does Belichick and his staff rate at drafting wide receivers?

    Here is as far as I'm going to go because it's not really worth all that much more effort, and I'm not sure I can even get the data I need to prove it the way I would like to. Since 2007 here are some of the receivers that have played for us AV/G and their AV/G for the residual part of their...
  14. M

    How does Belichick and his staff rate at drafting wide receivers?

    You actually quite literally just made my point. You're saying I should be comparing Moss to his years in an above average offense, when the sample gets diluted with Oakland, Tennessee, and San Francisco he looks worse. Which... Is exactly the point I've been making. The entire Patriots sample...
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    How does Belichick and his staff rate at drafting wide receivers?

    I have explained my position. To my knowledge I can't go to Pro-Football Reference and extract cumulative AV's by team by season, but if I can please let me know. It's not really something that needs to be proven anyways if you understand how the statistic is generated. The Patriots have had...
  16. M

    How does Belichick and his staff rate at drafting wide receivers?

    Actually Unoriginal's post doesn't really rebut this. The 3 teams he used for proof of strong QB performance all had 10000 yard receivers (Driver, Ward, Harrison) that were drafted in the late 90's which were excluded from the sample due to the cutoff date, but played close to all the snaps in...
  17. M

    How does Belichick and his staff rate at drafting wide receivers?

    I don't disagree. I think BB is one of the best drafters inside the hashes, and below average outside the hashes. It has to do with his philosophy and what he looks for in a player. He like to have smart, team-oriented communicative guys who "Do their job". This works great in the cluster in...
  18. M

    How does Belichick and his staff rate at drafting wide receivers?

    I'm going to have to fundamentally disagree with you. If you're going to utilize AV the way you are, you basically have to concede the fact that Tom Brady makes no tangible difference from an average QB since those 2 numbers are highly correlated. The Patriots are a strong outlier in offensive...
  19. M

    How does Belichick and his staff rate at drafting wide receivers?

    I wasn't even responding to you, I was talking to the guy who said that the difference between the Packers drafting of receivers and the Patriots drafting of receivers is a matter of perception, which is laughably false. Here is the thing the goal of the draft is to utilize your picks to bring...
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    How does Belichick and his staff rate at drafting wide receivers?

    Ted Thompson started in 2005 they've drafted in the top 3 rounds: Terrence Murphy (2nd) He suffered an injury 3 games into his career that forced him to retire, I don't really count him since there isn't a sample to really draw from. Greg Jennings (2nd) James Jones (3rd) Jordy Nelson (2nd)...

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