Kravitz, Breer and Volin Try to Start Something on McNally and Get Powned

raduray · Sep 17, 2015

Deus Irae said:
How long until Florio figures out the error, given that he's already posted the story?

7 pm and still waiting.

Big Bucks · Sep 17, 2015

I would love it if it came out that our ball boy had learning difficulties and was one of these people that runs around trying to please everyone, but has high anxiety levels and wants to get things done and not let people down.

ViperGTS · Sep 17, 2015

patsfan06 · Sep 17, 2015

Let me get this straight though, we've got a 243 page document made by lawyers with specific language to call Tom Brady, John Jastremski and Jim McNally liars and make them look like bad people....yet a official complaint to the league by an official against McNally wasn't mentioned once in the 243 pages?

Sure....liar.

Jackson 2 · Sep 17, 2015

raduray said:
7 pm and still waiting.

Florio may be back to his prior ways of being anti-NE. You can't change the spots on a leopard.

patsfan06 · Sep 17, 2015

Jackson 2 said:
Florio may be back to his prior ways of being anti-NE. You can't change the spots on a leopard.

He is a Steelers fan...

venecol · Sep 17, 2015

upstater1 said:
The contradictions in this story boggle the mind.

1. The ref said at most stadiums you lock the door to the room, and the room attendant stays in there. Then how in the world is the ballboy supposed to pass out balls to the on-field refs during the game? He's locked inside the ref's room? Does this guy Baltz have people confused?

2. He said that McNally repeatedly asked for balls early several times until he learned not to ever ask him again. Yet he only worked 3 games since McNally became a ballboy in 2008?

ABSURD!!!!!

I think he's confusing Dorito Dink with Cheetos Dink.

Dr Pain · Sep 17, 2015

It is shocking the NFL would allow a ref to have a child work for an NFL team.

lurker1965 · Sep 17, 2015

supafly said:
Every week?

In the past week alone we've had:

--10,000 word article accusing the team of all types of cheating, some of them stuff that the public wasn't previously aware of (outside of NE)

--Headsetgate

--Tomlin and Roethlisberger's comments about how the team always knows their plays, going back to 2004

--The fact that they cost the Steelers a TD by cheating down on the goal line, due to illegal formations/shifting techniques

--A series of .gif breakdowns showing how Tom Brady was somehow able to get more time added onto the clock at a crucial moment during Thursday's game

--The fact that they have such a home field advantage that they even refuse to provide security detail to the opposing team, which caused a Patriots fan to bait the PIT assistant coach into an exchange of words, which included involvement by the police to protect the coach

--McNally and Jestremski being brought back somehow meaning that Brady is guilty, and that the team is finally coming clean

--A "new" plan for a follow up report from last week's 10,000 word dissertation on ESPN, since they've now found additional information from new sources speaking out

--An official's claim that he turned McNally into the NFL years ago, due to him always being nervous and asking for the balls much too early, with a strong insinuation that the Pats have been cheating this way for years

-----------------------------------------

"Every week," you say.......

We haven't even started week two yet.

Silver Blue&Red said:
I'm pissed too. But I'm "trying" to just deal with, "as long as they can't stop on the field.". They try, but it's not working tet..YET! ... When/if that happens, somebody better man the F' up.

Both you guys (and others are looking at it wrong. These things, as long as they stay easily refutable, make anti-Patriot fans look petty and vindictive. That is great news for us in Message board threads and stuff.

The only thing better than them running away in defeat is them fighting to the bitter end with a broken sword.

Jackson 2 · Sep 17, 2015

patsfan06 said:
He is a Steelers fan...

Yes, I know.

Dr Pain · Sep 17, 2015

Palm Beach Pats Fan · Sep 17, 2015

summary:

McNally has worked for the Pats for a decade, by only since 2008 as an officials lockerroom attendant.

If this ref reported him 8 years ago, that would be 2007, BEFORE HE WAS an officials lockerroom attendant.

If this ref reported him 6 years ago, that would be 2009.

He reffed ZERO Patriots home games in 2009. Yes, ZERO.

He reffed ONE Patriots home games in 2008. Tom Brady did not play.

So his claim of “10-15” games seeing McNally act weird and interact withTom Brady is… A FABRICATION, BECAUSE IT DID NOT HAPPEN, WITH COMPLETE CERTAINTY.

If “6-8 years ago” means “2 years ago”, then his claim of “10-15” games is AT MOST 3 games.

This Indy resident whose son works for the Colts has some ‘splainin’ to do

Observer · Sep 17, 2015

I am noticing that this is a game REFEREE that is obviously pro colts and anti patriots. There is your integrity right there.

The NFL is a laughingstock of the sports world.

sb1 · Sep 17, 2015

Jackson 2 said:
Florio may be back to his prior ways of being anti-NE. You can't change the spots on a leopard.

Florio is only pro-clicks and was never anything else.

sb1 · Sep 17, 2015

patsfan06 said:
He is a Steelers fan...

I read somewhere he is a Vikings fan.

Koma · Sep 17, 2015

All this research into Baltz' past work as an official and his son's employment with th Colts (all easily found on the Internet) is going to start the "Pats fans are harassing people" whining again.

Deus Irae · Sep 17, 2015

Koma said:
All this research into Baltz' past work as an official and his son's employment with th Colts (all easily found on the Internet) is going to start the "Pats fans are harassing people" whining again.

Let them all know that stories will finally be checked. If they want to cry about that, too, that's just a bonus.

Rusty Coupe · Sep 17, 2015

Got this from the comments at PFT

nflexecutivesconstantlylie says:Sep 17, 2015 5:22 PM

For all those who doubt Baltz and Kravitz are liars…….

Baltz was a linesman, not a referee. Nobody would have requested balls from him because the referee has that authority.

Baltz said he did 10-15 games “up there”. He did six, here they are….
9/19/99 Colts at Pats (no Brady, no McNally)
10/28/07 Red Skins at Pats (yes Brady, no McNally)
12/21/08 Cardinals at Pats (no Brady, Yes McNally)
10/17/10 Ravens at Pats (yes Brady, yes McNally) but this game was after Blatz said he “reported” McNally.
1/16/11 Jets at Pats (yes Brady, Yes McNally) again, after the “report of McNally.
11/6/11 Giants at Pats (yes Brady, yes McNally) prior to the “report”

Any questions? There are no games that McNally was present with Brady prior to when Baltz said he reported McNally.

Liar

debunked

DaBronxPats14 · Sep 17, 2015

BSpn* pick and choose their spots to always discredit any positive Pats come away with. As soon as both employees are reinstated, BSpn* gets some slep ref who makes up a story that he always thought something was up with McNally, LIES about how many games he did with McNally and Mac wasn't even with team when he said this happened on some of those games . Obviously took notes from Mortensen, not surprised here.

raduray · Sep 17, 2015

Here's the Pro Football Talk update we've been waiting for: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/17/nfl-has-no-comment-on-mark-baltzs-claims/

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