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Old 02-04-2012, 12:49 PM   #1
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I keep hearing a lot about spygate these last couple of weeks and I can't believe how stupid some people really are. Sure, the coaching signals were taped, but they are seen by 70,000 people and the Patriots were filming right in the open. They weren't hiding it.

But it is the logistics that are hard to believe. The critics would have you believe that they would use the tapes in the second half. So you are telling me that you can take a half hour of game film, study both the signals and the corresponding plays of the other team. Decipher which ones are real and which signals are phony, and come up with a countering game plan based on the signals. And do this all in 15 minutes of halftime. Or that the offensive coordinator is waiting for the defense to give their signals before deciding what to run. That is what the haters would have you believe. Most plays are called even before the last play is over. Personell has to be changed on the field and I can't see how they could do all this and monitor the opposing coaches. Add in that the radios in the QBs helmet is shut off with 10 seconds left on the playclock and where does the offense find the time to call a play based on defensive signals. It just is't logical.

I still don't understand how the Dolphins, in 2006, could use audiotape of the Patriots signals to learn what we were going to do, and the NFL had no problem with that. It just seems ludicrous to me that you can call one getting a competitive edge and the other one is cheating.
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:52 PM   #2
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I keep hearing a lot about spygate these last couple of weeks and I can't believe how stupid some people really are. Sure, the coaching signals were taped, but they are seen by 70,000 people and the Patriots were filming right in the open. They weren't hiding it.
Spygate wasn't about hiding the taping. It was all about BB being cute about his interpretation of the two memos that were sent out. The memos clearly ban the practice of filming signals from the sideline but BB decided to play semantics with the phrase "for use during the game" and got burned.

Goodell, the brand-spanking new commish at the time, was understandably angry. Not because he used to be a Jets employee. Not because he had some kind of grudge against BB and the Pats. It was because a coach decided to basically give him the finger and do something he expressly told him (and the league) not to do.

Also, people who bring up Spygate as some kind of rebuttal to the Pats success don't know anything about football.
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The incident is an excuse for fans of other teams to hate on the Pats. Anybody that brings up the filming as the reason they hate the Pats is lying: I guarantee you that they hated the Pats prior to that event. You could point that out to them and ask them that question, but they would simply lie again and claim that isn't true.

You could bring up the point you made, or the one I made above, or how the team's winning percentage is actually better post- than it was pre-, or how 'haven't won anything since' has more to do with Brady's subsequent knee injury plus all but one starter on defense moving on, or any of a dozen other rebuttals, but it's not going to matter; it's like arguing with a fence post. They're either saying it to get under your skin, or are so blind that there is no reasoning with them.

Yes, it stinks to have to hear that crap but it is what it is. They're simple people with simple minds. The only time they will ever stop is if the Pats are no longer a competitive team; which alternative would you prefer?

You may as well embrace the hate.
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The incident is an excuse for fans of other teams to hate on the Pats. Anybody that brings up the filming as the reason they hate the Pats is lying: I guarantee you that they hated the Pats prior to that event. You could point that out to them and ask them that question, but they would simply lie again and claim that isn't true.

You could bring up the point you made, or the one I made above, or how the team's winning percentage is actually better post- than it was pre-, or how 'haven't won anything since' has more to do with Brady's subsequent knee injury plus all but one starter on defense moving on, or any of a dozen other rebuttals, but it's not going to matter; it's like arguing with a fence post. They're either saying it to get under your skin, or are so blind that there is no reasoning with them.

Yes, it stinks to have to hear that crap but it is what it is. They're simple people with simple minds. The only time they will ever stop is if the Pats are no longer a competitive team; which alternative would you prefer?

You may as well embrace the hate.
It is the most powerful form of hate they feel they have so they hold on it it at all costs.
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Some a-hole from the NY Post asked BB about spygate in a presser this week. No wonder people don't take the media seriously.
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WHATS WRONG WITH YOU RESPONDERS! Even acknowledgeing this post is to play into the HATERS wishs. Responding gives in to the point that this topic is debateable, and to who, a hater that will never let it go! Smarten up and put it to bed and forget about the haters that will never let it go and constantly try to get under your skin for laughs at your expence. DO NOT LET THEM PROVE THEIR SMARTER BY GETTING TO YOU. No true fan would bring the point up in any form, to do so is to admit it was what they have made it out to be. The point is old and dead, and long past haveing been played out. Do not play into their hands. Do not even acknowledge that made up word.
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