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Comparitively 'easier' it what sense or nonsense ?Please elaborate . A 6th round pick who was the 4th QB on the team with no #1 WRs till 2007 has had it easier than the 3 you mention ? WTF.
It means he wants to trash Brady but knows he has no legitimate reason to
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Third Quarter 12/16/2012
Baltimore Ravens at 0:48
1-10-DEN 36 (:48) (No Huddle, Shotgun) R.Rice left guard to DEN 34 for 2 yards (W.Woodyard).
Play By Play Fourth Quarter 12/16/2012
Baltimore Ravens continued.
3-5-DEN 31 (15:00) (Shotgun) J.Flacco pass incomplete short right to R.Rice.
PENALTY on DEN-D.Bruton, Roughing the Passer, 15 yards, enforced at DEN 31 - No Play. X10
1-10-DEN 16 (14:56) (No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Flacco pass incomplete short left [V.Miller].
PENALTY on BLT-A.Boldin, Unnecessary Roughness, 15 yards, enforced at DEN 16. QB outside the tackle box threw the ball away
(14:47) (No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Flacco pass deep middle to D.Pitta for 31 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
The Replay Assistant challenged the runner broke the plane ruling, and the play was Upheld.
2-25-DEN 31 P11
J.Tucker extra point is GOOD, Center-M.Cox, Holder-S.Koch.
DEN 31 BLT 10, 4 plays, 36 yards, 1 penalty, 1:17 drive, 0:29 elapsed
the only "backups" Denver played were nickel backs in their pass defense packages.
ban these idiots until they make the AFC championship game and the Pats do likewise....or else these little orange pom pom waving girls will continue their campaign of outright lies and and bigmouthed bragging.
__________________ Sorry, but the very definition of arrogance is some numbnutz internet gadfly who thinks he is smarter than a lead pipe cinch HOF coach with 5 Superbowl rings.
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First.. have you seen the receivers and TE's and RB's Brady had until 2007? The famous AFCCG when manning finally beat brady can you name brady's WR's ?
They let deion branch go that season so he had , reche caldwell,jabaar gaffeny and doug gabriel as his receivers.
Manning with the colts ALWAYS had #1 WR and TE and RBs. Thats the reason their Defense sucked and ST sucked because they never had any money for those areas.
And whats more, almost all of manning's playoff losses are because the colts offense wet the bed ,not because of his defense. They scored 3!!! pts vs the pats missing all their secondary in foxboro.
This whole system QB is whole lot of bull**** because we see manning moving around like a chicken calling plays at LOC and brady not doing it so he must be in a system. Guess what, montana was in the bill walsh system and bradshaw was in the chuck knoll system and even Manning runs the colts system. Tell me which QB doesnt have a system ? Mark sanchez maybe ?
And here is more. Look at the pats offense from 2003 till now.
Run the ball and play defense -no problem, brady does.
Trade your #1 WR to seattle and have a bunch of scrub WR's on your team and throw it to the open guy -brady did it in 2006.
Scrap the whole offense and bring a spread/shotgun offense with moss and welker -brady did it.
Let moss go in the MIDDLE OF THE SEASON!! and turn to short passing game - brady did it.
Bring in two tightends and change the offense again - brady did it .
All this with ever changing OC's !
And to address the matt cassel thing.Ironically the thread title does that. We played the AFC west and NFC west that year. Two of the worst conf that season.
So all due respect please shut the hell up about this theory of system qb and great talent he has had. Just go back in history and check the facts. If anything, he has not played in the same system for more than 1 or 2 seasons at all.
I appreciate your statistics, and you are correct in your assumption that Brady is a great QB. However, your statistics tend to point towards the idea that Brady is reliant upon his team. You say that in 2006 and 07 Brady didn't have houshold names at the WR position which is true. But perhaps this is why Brady failed to win the big game. He couldn't do it alone on offense. He couldn't take the unproven roster he had and make something of it. In fact, maybe the only reason they were reasonably successful is because of the defensive performances in those years where NE had the # 6 and #4 defenses respectively.
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Brady plays in the greatest system of all-time. He's a great quarterback, he throws the ball well, has poise and accuracy, and has had plenty of success.
But...
Ultimately, he is somewhat a puppet of BB, plays consistantly with some of the best recievers in the game. Has AMAZING TE's to dump it off to if all else fails, yet does little to direct or lead his team. In his case, that's the coaches job. There is a reason Matt Cassell looked all pro on a stacked team and that is ANY competent QB can play like a hall of famer on that team.
Whereas...
Manning has played on 2 teams with what started out as unproven teammates, especially at the WR position, and MADE them into household names with HIS system. His offense has always been prolific despite major roster changes and changing teams and he would have been more successful in the past if it werent for some really bad Colts defenses.
Alas,
Most of the knocks against Brady arent his fault, but certainly deminish the argument for him being in the GOAT conversation.
Brady is the best ever, does everything you need in a all time QB and has 3 (4th coming in a little over 30 days) SB to back him up. Brady is the best in the game today and arguable best to ever play the game. And PS, all had great receivers and a good team.
At least he admits that the letter "E" doesn't exist.
I may be being blasphemous to my fellow fanbase, but I dont think Elway way top 3. I put him at 4. But I dont put Brady in the top 8.
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I ask because there is a thread referencing this thread on that message board, along with three other Pats-centric threads on the first page alone, including a discussion of how they can stop Gronk and Hernandez.
Where is our thread on how the Pats can stop the Broncos threats?
Oh, there isn't one, because the Pats are only concerned with the next opponent.....
But the Broncos aren't worried about the Pats......
Ooops! Correction, FOUR other Pats-centric threads.
If you think that site is bad, you should see Orangemane.
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**** you defense for not being worth the paper your contracts are written on! **** you buffalo bills for wasting my the past 9 years of my life! **** the entire ****ing franchise for being full of ****!