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Old 04-05-2012, 09:14 AM   #21
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Yeah, and he ran a program to pay guys to injure people. Other than that, he really didn't do anything wrong.
Injuring the other team is kinda their job.

Like it or not we celebrate players who do that, Lawrence Taylor's hit on Joe Theisman which ended his career is a classic bit of film. The question should be whether one player injured another but rather on whether a hit was clean or not: if a hit is clean that's just part of the game, James Harrison launching himself at Colt McCoy's head, not so much.
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:19 AM   #22
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Injuring the other team is kinda their job.

Like it or not we celebrate players who do that, Lawrence Taylor's hit on Joe Theisman which ended his career is a classic bit of film. The question should be whether one player injured another but rather on whether a hit was clean or not: if a hit is clean that's just part of the game, James Harrison launching himself at Colt McCoy's head, not so much.
I'm pretty sure the team's job is to score more points than the other team.

You know what screams clean hit? "Let's take out his ACL."
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Oh to be on a fly on the wall of a Saint defensive meeting before the Saints Vikings game in 2009.
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I'm pretty sure the team's job is to score more points than the other team.

You know what screams clean hit? "Let's take out his ACL."
Scoring points becomes a lot easier when their key players on the field.

As far as taking out someone's ACL, if a player goes for the knees, like Polamalu does all the time when he's not trying to break Welker's neck, it's the jobs of the ref to call it, which they do a crap job of IMO.
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Injuring the other team is kinda their job.

Like it or not we celebrate players who do that, Lawrence Taylor's hit on Joe Theisman which ended his career is a classic bit of film. The question should be whether one player injured another but rather on whether a hit was clean or not: if a hit is clean that's just part of the game, James Harrison launching himself at Colt McCoy's head, not so much.
No, it's not. It's an unfortunate byproduct of their job on occasion but it can and should be avoided whenever possible and should never be the intent. And "we" are part of the problem which is why culture change is so difficult to effect and why sometimes drastic and unpopular measures have to be taken as in this case when allowing a culture to continue to exist threatens the very existence of the game we all supposedly love to play and or watch it....
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Obviously a bit too much on the head and acl stuff but other than that is that really much worse than you might hear from other locker rooms?

If some of our players we're to say "let's knock some ************s out" in a pregame huddle then i'd probably be cheering them on.

also the crabtree part is gold.
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Injuring the other team is kinda their job.
No it is not "kinda their job." There is a huge difference between punishing an opponent through legal physical play and attempting to injure someone.

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Like it or not we celebrate players who do that, Lawrence Taylor's hit on Joe Theisman which ended his career is a classic bit of film.
I played football and have watched the pro game for decades and have NEVER celebrated a player getting injured or enjoyed watching it happen. Injury is a sad, unfortunate byproduct of contact sports, not a goal or purpose.

I still get squeamish seeing that Theisman hit. Anyone who lauds it as a "classic bit of film" is a budding sadist.
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No, it's not. It's an unfortunate byproduct of their job on occasion but it can and should be avoided whenever possible and should never be the intent. And "we" are part of the problem which is why culture change is so difficult to effect and why sometimes drastic and unpopular measures have to be taken as in this case when allowing a culture to continue to exist threatens the very existence of the game we all supposedly love to play and or watch it....
Coming from someone whose screen name celebrates Drew Bledsoe nearly getting killed, but hey, whatever helps you sleep at night...
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No it is not "kinda their job." There is a huge difference between punishing an opponent through legal physical play and attempting to injure someone.
Can legal physical contact injure someone?

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I played football and have watched the pro game for decades and have NEVER celebrated a player getting injured or enjoyed watching it happen. Injury is a sad, unfortunate byproduct of contact sports, not a goal or purpose.

I still get squeamish seeing that Theisman hit. Anyone who lauds it as a "classic bit of film" is a budding sadist.
I'm not a sadist, I'm just honest. The NFL has shown that clip a million times, you'll never see a documentary on LT without them showing that play. The league profits from violent hits like that yet condems it at the same time, a bunch of damn hypocrites.

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This idiot is DONE in the NFL! He better be.

He'll be lucky if his next speech is "Do you want to biggee size that value meal?"

Screw him and the horse he rode in on!
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