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Old 08-06-2011, 09:56 PM   #1
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Chose NY over Baltimore - Mason is 37 years old
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Now the Jets at WR have one guy a bad incident away from a 1 year suspension of football,a guy 2 years removed from the game and a guy with one foot in the grave (by football standards)

Scary Trio for Sanchez eh??
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:00 PM   #2
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an old fart..2 jail birds and a rookie...sanchez is going to be mvp this year


"How is any team going to stop Holmes, Burris, Mason, Jeri-Kerl and Keller with Greene, LT and Mcknight coming out of the backfield?"

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You know what's really funny. Sanchez beat the Patriots with Chansi Stuckey and Jerricho Cotchery in Week 2 of the 2009 season. He went 15/22 with one touchdown. Then again in week 2 of the 2010 season with Braylon Edwards and Cotchery, now Edwards was an upgrade to Stuckey. He went 21/30 with 3 touchdowns. Then AGAIN in the 2010 post season with the addition of Santonio Holmes. He went 16/25 with......oh yeah 3 touchdowns. AND he went 9-7 his rookie year, improving to 11-5 the following year. It's funny to see people make fun of him, it shows you just how naive people can be. This kid has gone to two straight AFC championships, he may not be talented enough to take control of an entire team but he was put into a good system. He is improving and to be honest he has gotten a better group of wide receivers, i'm not saying he will be MVP or anything but at the same time showing a tiny bit of respect wouldn't be the worst thing.
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You know what's really funny. Sanchez beat the Patriots with Chansi Stuckey and Jerricho Cotchery in Week 2 of the 2009 season. He went 15/22 with one touchdown. Then again in week 2 of the 2010 season with Braylon Edwards and Cotchery, now Edwards was an upgrade to Stuckey. He went 21/30 with 3 touchdowns. Then AGAIN in the 2010 post season with the addition of Santonio Holmes. He went 16/25 with......oh yeah 3 touchdowns. AND he went 9-7 his rookie year, improving to 11-5 the following year. It's funny to see people make fun of him, it shows you just how naive people can be. This kid has gone to two straight AFC championships, he may not be talented enough to take control of an entire team but he was put into a good system. He is improving and to be honest he has gotten a better group of wide receivers, i'm not saying he will be MVP or anything but at the same time showing a tiny bit of respect wouldn't be the worst thing.
And Trent Dilfer has a Super Bowl ring.

Sanchez has shown flashes of brilliance, but he is way inconsistent and is lucky his defense keeps him in games. Last year the Jets won games they had no right winning since Sanchez sucked really bad for three quarters, but the defense kept the game in reach and Sanchez turned it on in the end. I give him credit for those fourth quarter comebacks, but he is the reason in many cases there was even a need for a fourth quarter comeback.

Another thing in his favor was that he was lucky that a lot of his passes to defenders last year were dropped. I think Sanchez led the league in dropped INTs by a wide margin.

Unless the Jets' defense comes back to 2009 form, he will need Plax and Mason to pan out. I am not counting on much for Plax due to his age, time away from the game, and the fact his skills looked to be declining before he went to jail. Mason could be a good #3, but he is at an age where he can hit the age wall fast and hard.

Sanchez is an average QB on a very good team. He may get to above average or great (I doubt he will ever be elite). Elite QBs can elevate the play of his receivers no matter their skill sets. Average ones can't. The Jets are gambling a lot on two old WRs in a critical third year for Sanchez. Sanchez needs to work on his consistency and having a #2 WR who will probably need the first month or two to get reacclimated to the NFL is not a good way to do it.
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You know what's really funny. Sanchez beat the Patriots with Chansi Stuckey and Jerricho Cotchery in Week 2 of the 2009 season. He went 15/22 with one touchdown. Then again in week 2 of the 2010 season with Braylon Edwards and Cotchery, now Edwards was an upgrade to Stuckey. He went 21/30 with 3 touchdowns. Then AGAIN in the 2010 post season with the addition of Santonio Holmes. He went 16/25 with......oh yeah 3 touchdowns. AND he went 9-7 his rookie year, improving to 11-5 the following year. It's funny to see people make fun of him, it shows you just how naive people can be. This kid has gone to two straight AFC championships, he may not be talented enough to take control of an entire team but he was put into a good system. He is improving and to be honest he has gotten a better group of wide receivers, i'm not saying he will be MVP or anything but at the same time showing a tiny bit of respect wouldn't be the worst thing.
If you honestly believe that the collection of Jets wide receivers is better than their 2010 collection of wide receivers then we should probably stop at that point.

I do agree that people should stop writing off Sanchez's ability to improve. He's done well enough without being a star. That said, we all know the Jets are predicated on the run. Stop the run and force him to win the games opposed to game manage. This is where Haynesworth should make a big difference.
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And Trent Dilfer has a Super Bowl ring.

Sanchez has shown flashes of brilliance, but he is way inconsistent and is lucky his defense keeps him in games. Last year the Jets won games they had no right winning since Sanchez sucked really bad for three quarters, but the defense kept the game in reach and Sanchez turned it on in the end. I give him credit for those fourth quarter comebacks, but he is the reason in many cases there was even a need for a fourth quarter comeback.

Another thing in his favor was that he was lucky that a lot of his passes to defenders last year were dropped. I think Sanchez led the league in dropped INTs by a wide margin.

Unless the Jets' defense comes back to 2009 form, he will need Plax and Mason to pan out. I am not counting on much for Plax due to his age, time away from the game, and the fact his skills looked to be declining before he went to jail. Mason could be a good #3, but he is at an age where he can hit the age wall fast and hard.

Sanchez is an average QB on a very good team. He may get to above average or great (I doubt he will ever be elite). Elite QBs can elevate the play of his receivers no matter their skill sets. Average ones can't. The Jets are gambling a lot on two old WRs in a critical third year for Sanchez. Sanchez needs to work on his consistency and having a #2 WR who will probably need the first month or two to get reacclimated to the NFL is not a good way to do it.
Oh I agree with you 100%! But you said it yourself, TRENT DILFER has a super bowl ring! The Jets defense is what won them most of their games BUT Sanchez got BETTER in 2010 not worse. So I don't understand why people think he will get worse in 2011. So if Dilfer has a super bowl ring, I don't see why people think it is unrealistic it is for Sanchez to have one.
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You know what's really funny. Sanchez beat the Patriots with Chansi Stuckey and Jerricho Cotchery in Week 2 of the 2009 season. He went 15/22 with one touchdown. Then again in week 2 of the 2010 season with Braylon Edwards and Cotchery, now Edwards was an upgrade to Stuckey. He went 21/30 with 3 touchdowns. Then AGAIN in the 2010 post season with the addition of Santonio Holmes. He went 16/25 with......oh yeah 3 touchdowns. AND he went 9-7 his rookie year, improving to 11-5 the following year. It's funny to see people make fun of him, it shows you just how naive people can be. This kid has gone to two straight AFC championships, he may not be talented enough to take control of an entire team but he was put into a good system. He is improving and to be honest he has gotten a better group of wide receivers, i'm not saying he will be MVP or anything but at the same time showing a tiny bit of respect wouldn't be the worst thing.
The TEAM went to 2 Championship games and lost, and for the most part did that in spite of the QB.
I don't know how you can possibly call the slowest WR group in the NFL an upgrade/
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Brad Smith is eminently replaceable.

Braylon had some good grabs, but also his share of drops last year (as was to be expected from him). Plaxico is clearly an upgrade from Holmes, assuming he is anything close to what he was before prison.

Santonio Holmes is still a legit #1, and he re-signed.

The only question mark for the Jets is whether Mason can replace Cotchery. Personally, I have a lot of memories of Mason doing a lot of damage to the Patriots as a Raven. (So many freaking 8 yard curls that our corners playing 10 yards off the LOS couldn't stop... sorry, flashback!) If he is healthy, I believe he can.

This WR group isn't significantly worse than the Jets had last year, and has the potential to be better.
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Oh I agree with you 100%! But you said it yourself, TRENT DILFER has a super bowl ring! The Jets defense is what won them most of their games BUT Sanchez got BETTER in 2010 not worse. So I don't understand why people think he will get worse in 2011. So if Dilfer has a super bowl ring, I don't see why people think it is unrealistic it is for Sanchez to have one.
Maybe he improved, but really not by a significant amount to keep him from the bottom tier of QBs. He completed less than 55% of his passes. That is epically bad.
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