Originally Posted by jmt57
If not for a couple of teams handing the Colts a win, they'd be in an identical position as New Orleans - and the Colts would have an identical record. Brees has had to overcome just as much, if not more than Manning with injuries and poor defense. But if the Colts were 7-7 and Manning had Brees stats, I am quite confident that you would still be touting him as the MVP.
Open your eyes, your comment that "Peyton is without question the most valuable player" shows your lack of objectivity. Right now it is very unclear who the MVP is - and Peyton is not one of the two or three names brought up in discussion most often.
Did you watch ESPN today? Dilfer said discussion over, Peyton is MVP. Peter King and Mort have him at the top of their lists. To say he is not getting in there with the top names is crazy.
Oh really Brees overcame more? Two knee surgeries, missing TC and preseason and starting the year with THREE new interior lineman against good D lines while also having NO RUNNING GAME most of the season? Spare me the argument of how many freaking yards he throws for too.
Yeah Brees overcame more. Not to mention he does not have Manning's come from behind wins, clutch 4th quarter plays and wins on the road. Has Brees beaten the best defenses in the AFC? Has Brees done anything outside his dome? Did Brees help lead his team from a 3-4 record to likely a playoff spot? Has the Colts defense really been THAT good? It's better than the Saints D but to think it's fantastic is crazy, not to mention Peyton has had some pretty soft defenses over the years as well.
You gotta make the playoffs to win MVP in my opinion or at least not be ranked dead last in your division.
As for Warner show me when he has beaten a decent defense this year or not folded against a halfway decent team or on the East coast. I know his running game is struggling and they won the division but the Colts likely would win the NFC West and very doubtful the Cards would have beaten the Titans out for the AFC south.
If Colts had the same record as the Saints along with the same stats as Brees no I would NOT think he should win MVP.
I will give you Peterson as a legit case but after winning ROY last season I dont see it at the moment. I do think he wins MVP eventually though one of these years.
Now back to the orginal question as to whether the final game will mean something it depends on whether the Colts take care of business against the Jags and the Titans against the Steelers.
Likely if the Colts beat the Jags banged up players like Addai, Sanders, Saturday, and Gary Brackett will miss the Titans game but we have been resting particular guys all year, we did against the Lions too (everyone is playing the Jags game btw). But, the Titans have thier own injury issues as well with their two most important D line players banged up who will likely rest.
I think Peyton will have to play well in the final 2 games to make a stronger case too.