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Old 01-30-2013, 07:56 AM   #1
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Question Question: do you care about PED's?

With this Ray Lewis and A-rod news, I am curious: do you really care? It's my belief that PED's are rampant at the highest level of all pro sports. Rampant. I believe most fans want their football players bigger than life, and could care less if they are dirty. I also believe there's a double standard when it comes to other sports. Perhaps that is driven by the sports writers, I don't know. IMO there's more interest in Lance Armstrong and the baseball players than football, basketball, or even golf.

I think sports are dirty, it's economically driven, and fans for the most part don't care.
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:05 AM   #2
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No I dont really care if athletes use PEDs. I especially dont care if it is like Ray Lewis' case where they are used to recover from an injury quicker to get back on the field.
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:09 AM   #3
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No. The PED concern is largely media driven. Sports media is full of guys that secretly envy the guys they cover because they are everything they are not--rich, attractive, and talented. They like nothing better than to "expose" the athletes for being cheaters, bad people, whatever. That Congress got involved with this is a national embarrassment.
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Not anymore, pretty obvious a lot of athletes use them. and lol@the "adderal" academic.
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:25 AM   #5
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They should be used to aid in injury recovery and their use should be monitored/administrated by the teams and leagues. If a substances is used to aid the recovery on non athletes it should be available for those purposes to athletes.
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I care about creating a level playing field.
Whether that includes or excludes PEDs I'm not as concerned about -- but the players as a collective should prefer a game without PEDs as it reduces their long term health risks.

PEDs are like a zero sum game -- if everyone takes them; or if no one takes them, then everything is equal. So everyone is better off not taking them. But people do because they believe others do and they need to to level the field, or because they believe others don't and thus it gives them an advantage.

More people won't watch the game just cause it has PEDs.
I don't believe the 'baseball wanted more home runs so they allowed it'. If that was the case, they could've just allowed corked bats.

Maybe the NFL should up the penalty.
Not all PEDs are equal -- if you take a drug accidently for a non sports purpose, a 2-4 game suspension sounds fair enough. If you're taking something for a sports advantage, make it a year suspension on first offense; 2 years on second. People will think a lot harder if they lose an entire season.
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Not an expert on the science but if there is medical evidence that doctor administered PEDs can expedite or improve injury recovery, they should be allowed. Times change. Medicine advances.
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In sports other than football, I don't really care. I know PEDs are used throughout the NFL but I don't like it because guys are hitting each other and have the potential to hurt. In sports like baseball, I really don't care. It still takes skill to play the game and seeing a guy blast a 425 ft. HR is exciting as well as watching a pitcher throw a CG while still topping off at 97MPH in the 9th inning.
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I think almost all NFL players take some sort of supplement to enhance muscle/strength gains and to enhance endurance. But not everyone takes illegal Performance enhancers. The players that do are able to detox and get away with it or they take something that doesn't stay in their system long enough to be detected in a drug test.

Like I said, I believe a lot of players have used something. For example, a stat that stuck out to me was Aaron Hernadez's bench press results in the 2010 combine. He repped 225lbs for 30 reps, which was on par with most lineman and I believe was the most of the TE's. Hernadez was also only 20 years old. If he wasn't taking some kind of performance enhancer at some point within the previous couple years, then I am surprised.
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My solution:

Allow free use of molecularly tagged PEDs from NFL (not team) doctors for the purposes of speedier recovery.

Before you use it, however, you consent to a blood test for PEDs that aren't the type the NFL uses (as well as if you had any before they inject you).

Simple - the lure of easy PEDs for recovery will be too great for athletes to resist while automatically screening them for other uses.
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