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Old 03-03-2008, 08:42 AM   #1
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Default Calvin Pace or Vernon Gholston?

PAce is visiting the jets today and if he happens to sign with them, that would probably mean they would be looking elsewhere in the draft, so my question is

Would you rather have the Patriots make a run a Pace who had a good year last year but will require a ton of money or Gholston, who is obviously an unproven commodity who will also get big money at the #7 spot, but is younger and will be locked up for 6 years.

Me personally, I do not trust Pace's year last year, seemed to play for that big contract he will be getting, so I would take the risk of draft Gholston.

What are your thoughts?
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:48 AM   #2
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Gholston hands down if I had to choose between the 2.

Calvin Pace over his 5 year career was nothing special believe me. He averaged a little under 3 sacks a year and all of a sudden like alot of NFL players do who are playing in contract years, he turned it up a notch and still only managed 6.5 sacks.

If the Jets are foolish enough to overpay for his services, that's totally fine with me.

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Old 03-03-2008, 09:02 AM   #3
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As I've said before I don't get to see alot of college football but I did watch the combine and Gholston looks a monster as far as athletic ability goes. I'd probrably lean towards developing potential like Gholston.
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PAce is visiting the jets today and if he happens to sign with them, that would probably mean they would be looking elsewhere in the draft, so my question is

Would you rather have the Patriots make a run a Pace who had a good year last year but will require a ton of money or Gholston, who is obviously an unproven commodity who will also get big money at the #7 spot, but is younger and will be locked up for 6 years.

Me personally, I do not trust Pace's year last year, seemed to play for that big contract he will be getting, so I would take the risk of draft Gholston.

What are your thoughts?
Well, we have to draft somebody, and given the choices you lay out, I would rather sign a vet CB and draft Gholston than sign Pace and draft a CB at #7.
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Even if the Jets sign Pace, there is still a need at OLB. I really think the Jets are either going to take Gholston or Ellis based on their needs. Because the Pats don't need a DT chances are the Jets will take Gholston not only to benefit their team, but also to keep him off the Pats. Causing the Pats to reach for some other player.
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...I would rather sign a vet CB and draft Gholston than sign Pace and draft a CB at #7.
Or...trade down from #7 and draft a CB, or...draft Gholston and trade up in round two for that CB.
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If used properly as a 3-4 OLB pass rush specialist, I could see Gholston having as many sacks as a rookie as Pace has had in his entire 5 years career (13). Maybe overly optimistic, so we'll go with 10 sacks, which would be as many as Pace has had in the last 4 years combined. You'd be paying a player with greater physical gifts and upside less guaranteed money, have him for 6 years, and be able to develop him from scratch with the best coaching in the world.

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If he is available at 7 I think the Pats take Gholston. If he is off the board, I see them trading the pick. The draft is deep at CB, so they could probably pick up a good corner and a LB later in the first round.
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If he is available at 7 I think the Pats take Gholston. If he is off the board, I see them trading the pick. The draft is deep at CB, so they could probably pick up a good corner and a LB later in the first round.
I agree with this. Gholston-Bruschi-Thomas-Vrabel is not a bad starting lineup. We can get some serious pressure on the QB and take the pressure off of the DBs.
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It's more complicated than simply Pace or Gholston. If in fact taking Pace means they go elsewhere in the draft, which it may, it's more like:

Pace and McFadden: $12 mil
Gholston and re-sign Hobson: $7-8 mil...
(above from the Jets perspective).
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