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Old 12-28-2009, 11:16 AM   #1
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Default Teams that will be "Players" in the upcoming draft:

1.) San Francisco:

They have all of their own picks, plus Carolina's #1 (picks 11 & 12) if the draft was held today.

2.) Patriots:

They have 2 extra second round picks, however they have traded away their 3rd and 5th round picks. They also have Philly's 7th rd pick, and will get 4 comp picks (1 6th, 3 7th rd picks).

3.) Seattle:

They have Denver's 1st round pick (#21) plus their own (#7). They did trade their 3rd rd pick to Philly.

4.) Philadelphia:

They have a 3rd from Seattle, a 4th (maybe higher) from the Jets, a 5th from New Orleans, a 6th from the Colts. They have traded away their own 5th (St. Louis) and 7th (Pats).

5.) Cleveland:

They have all of their own picks including #4 overall. Plus they have a 3rd & 5th rd picks coming from the Jets. Plus another 5th from Tampa.

Teams that do not have many picks:

NY Jets: They have to be careful because both the Edwards and Sheppard trades include "conditions" that could escalate them to 2nd rd picks (Sheppards is playing time and he DNP in 5 games, so I doubt that it would be reached). More than likely they will have traded away their 3rd, 4th, & 5th round picks.

Chicago: Cutler is the gift that keeps on giving. They have traded away their first (Denver: Cutler) and 2nd round pick (Adams: Tampa)
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Default Re: Teams that will be "Players" in the upcoming draft:

Although its still early, it looks like that Cutler trade was a terrible one for Chicago. They have to get WR help and it looks like it will have to be done via free agency since they have no picks in the first two rounds. Who will be available? Braylon Edwards?
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Although its still early, it looks like that Cutler trade was a terrible one for Chicago. They have to get WR help and it looks like it will have to be done via free agency since they have no picks in the first two rounds. Who will be available? Braylon Edwards?
The Patriots could fix that . . . for the right price.
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The Patriots could fix that . . . for the right price.

Who would you take from the Bears? Urlacher, Briggs?...they seem like LBs that fit better in the 4-3
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Who would you take from the Bears? Urlacher, Briggs?...they seem like LBs that fit better in the 4-3
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The Bears beat the Vikings in OT tonight. They're now 6-9, with Detroit up next, so their is a good chance they go 7-9 and end up in the middle of the pack with everyone else. That's important because Denver has Chicago's pick.

With one week to go the top 10 in the draft looks pretty muddled:

1-15 St. Louis
2-13 Detroit (plays Chicago)
3-12 Tampa Bay
3-12 Kansas City - should lose to Denver, fighting for a playoff berth, and end up 3-13
4-11 Cleveland - playing much better, could upset Jax and possibly go 5-11
4-11 Washington - not likely to beat San Diego unless the Chargers rest their starters

Those are pretty clearly the top 6 at this point. Then there's

5-10 Oakland -
5-10 Seattle - will have it's hands full with Tennessee
5-10 Buffalo - has a shot if Indy doesn't play it's starters

Those 9 teams are all guaranteed to have 6 or fewer wins. The only other team which could possibly have 6 wins is Chicago. But if Chicago beats Detroit then a team with 7 wins will have a top 10 pick, and it's a crowded field. The following teams could end up with 7 wins:

1. Chicago - needs to beat Detroit
2. Miami - 7-9 if they lose to Pittsburgh
3. San Francisco - 7-9 if they lose to the Rams (unlikely)
4. Carolina (1st round pick owned by San Francisco) - 7-9 if they lose to New Orleans
5. Tennessee - 7-9 if they lose to Seattle
6. Jacksonville - 7-9 if they lose to Cleveland

I haven't looked at the strength of schedule to see who would have the edge, but those 6 teams could be picking anywhere from 10-15 right now. And if the 5 teams that are 7-9 win then it will be an even more crowded field, with the Giants, Broncos, Steelers, Ravens, Jets, Falcons and Texans all 8-8 if they lose.
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The Bears beat the Vikings in OT tonight. They're now 6-9, with Detroit up next, so their is a good chance they go 7-9 and end up in the middle of the pack with everyone else. That's important because Denver has Chicago's pick.

With one week to go the top 10 in the draft looks pretty muddled:

1-15 St. Louis
2-13 Detroit (plays Chicago)
3-12 Tampa Bay
3-12 Kansas City - should lose to Denver, fighting for a playoff berth, and end up 3-13
4-11 Cleveland - playing much better, could upset Jax and possibly go 5-11
4-11 Washington - not likely to beat San Diego unless the Chargers rest their starters

Those are pretty clearly the top 6 at this point. Then there's

5-10 Oakland -
5-10 Seattle - will have it's hands full with Tennessee
5-10 Buffalo - has a shot if Indy doesn't play it's starters

Those 9 teams are all guaranteed to have 6 or fewer wins. The only other team which could possibly have 6 wins is Chicago. But if Chicago beats Detroit then a team with 7 wins will have a top 10 pick, and it's a crowded field. The following teams could end up with 7 wins:

1. Chicago - needs to beat Detroit
2. Miami - 7-9 if they lose to Pittsburgh
3. San Francisco - 7-9 if they lose to the Rams (unlikely)
4. Carolina (1st round pick owned by San Francisco) - 7-9 if they lose to New Orleans
5. Tennessee - 7-9 if they lose to Seattle
6. Jacksonville - 7-9 if they lose to Cleveland

I haven't looked at the strength of schedule to see who would have the edge, but those 6 teams could be picking anywhere from 10-15 right now. And if the 5 teams that are 7-9 win then it will be an even more crowded field, with the Giants, Broncos, Steelers, Ravens, Jets, Falcons and Texans all 8-8 if they lose.
How ripped is Parcells to potentially finish 7 and 9? Last year still makes me ill just thinking about it. Is it poetic justice for us and maybe the Jets to make the playoffs this year and Parcells to be left out?

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I haven't looked at the strength of schedule to see who would have the edge, but those 6 teams could be picking anywhere from 10-15 right now. And if the 5 teams that are 7-9 win then it will be an even more crowded field, with the Giants, Broncos, Steelers, Ravens, Jets, Falcons and Texans all 8-8 if they lose.
Luckily, I have that right here. Numbers after records = total opponent wins.

1. STL 1-14 126
2. DET 2-13 124
3. KC 3-12 125
4. TB 3-12 134
5. WAS 4-11 120
6. CLE 4-11 121
7. SEA 5-10 120
8. BUF 5-10 124
9. OAK 5-10 125

10. CHI 6-9 118

11. SF 7-8 110
12. JAX 7-8 118
13. TEN 7-8 131
14. CAR 7-8 132
15. MIA 7-8 133

16. PIT 8-7 115
17. ATL 8-7 122
18. HOU 8-7 124
19. BAL 8-7 125
20. NYJ 8-7 126
21. DEN 8-7 127
22. NYG 8-7 130

GB 10-5 104(!)
ARI 10-5 106(!)
CIN 10-5 113
DAL 10-5 120
NE 10-5 123
MIN 11-4 104
PHI 11-4 116
SD 12-3 109(!)
NO 13-2 102(!)
IND 14-1 113(!)
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San Fran could set themselves up for a decade if they pick well this year. They allready have some really talented young players.
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If I'm Chicago, I go hard after Brandon Marshall who'll be a free agent. Marshall, Hester, Knox and Bennett would be a nice complement of wide receivers. And Olsen is developing a good rapport with Cutler. Moreover, Chicago must hire a new offensive coordinator and draft or sign better offensive linemen to improve the offensive line. Chicago needs to have balance in the passing and running game. Forte can still be a significant part of their success next season if the offensive line improves dramatically this off-season.

A lot has been made of Forte's struggles this season, but he wasn't the only star affected by a star addition to the team.


Forte was somewhat affected by Cutler's addition.
Adrian Peterson was somewhat affected by Favre's addition.
Roddy White was somewhat affected by Gonzalez's addition.


There were other circumstances that affected each of their seasons, but I don't think that it's a coincidence either.
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