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re: Dan Fouts: Tom Brady gets special treatment from refs
Here are some stats for Dan Fouts. I took the time to investigate just a little bit about the topic to realize that TB doesn't get as over-protected as many people think.
2010-12 Patriots offense
Over the last 3 seasons (2010-12), the Patriots have enjoyed the best offensive peak ever by a team: 1588 points, breaking the record held by the 1999-01 Rams. In that span, Brady had a 109/24 TD-INT ratio, with an 1.4 INT% and the 2nd most passing yds with 13,962. Now that's "effective", right?
Referees "protecting" Brady
Over the same period, the Pats were beneficiated with only 5 roughing the passer penalties on their favor. That is the 4th (tied) least amount in the league. NFL teams averaged 3 per season from 2010-12, while we only had 5.
Breaking down the RTP penalties
How about those penalties? Many might argue that he gets his way at home, or any kind of ridiculous theory, but the fact is that out of those 5 flags, only 2 came at home. The 1st was on MIA Paul Soliai on 2010 in a blowout win by NE. It was already a blowout when they called. Bad call or not, it did nothing for Brady have a better game given that it was over by the time of the call.
The 2nd one was a little bit more controversial. It was on DAL Anthony Spencer on 2011 in a close win by NE. Many fans, and the media, argued about the severity of the ruling, but Spencer clearly hit Brady late on the play. In fact, Brady has been hit like this many times this season, and no referee threw a flag. So 24 home games, and only 2 RTP calls? That doesn't sound like home cooking.
QB hits
But let's get deeper. NE's opponents had a total of 190 QB hits (as FootballOutsiders.com explains: "These are plays knocking down the quarterback after a pass, not sacks.") in this 3-year span. While that is the 5th best total for a team (thanks O linemen), the relationship between the RTP penalties called, which could have been many if TB was actually "being protected by the refs", is very low. TB gets a RTP flag every 38 times he gets hit (statistically hit). That, Mr Fouts, is the 7th worst in the league. By this, we can safely say that TB is the 4th least referee-protected QB in the league in the past 3 years, just behind Tony Romo, Joe Flacco and Josh Freeman (the 3 remaining teams ahead of NE have had several QBs since 2010). If we add sacks, Brady gets a RTP flag every 54.8 hits+sacks, 8th worst.
2010-12 NE Offensive Line
And what about the O line? According to PFF, these were the pass block/protection rankings for our OL since 2010:
2010 - 10th
2011 - 8th
2012 - 16th
I'm not taking PFF as the last word, but they have a much less biased analysis than most of the "analysts" when it comes to football. As you see, we had an above average line over these 3 years, regarding pass blocking. Good, but not superb. Given that his criticism comes this year, I'm not sure what kind of games he watched. Not only our OL was average in PB, but we had only 2 OL healthy all year.
Conclusion
TB has guided the most prolific offense in any 3-year span ever, while not getting as much protection from the referees as everyone wants to think. Once again, BB, TB and NE haters fail to make a valid point in what they think is a good argument to pick on the Pats.
Fouts' isn't just wrong, he is completely lost. While he claims that TB "needs to be protected to succeed", it is completely the opposite:
In a 3-year span, Tom Brady led the best offense in the history of NFL, while being the 4th least referee-protected QB in the league, and behind a good-but-not-great pass blocking O line.
Next time, try to hate with actual facts that can back up your statements.
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re: Dan Fouts: Tom Brady gets special treatment from refs
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Originally Posted by josh24
Here are some stats for Dan Fouts. I took the time to investigate just a little bit about the topic to realize that TB doesn't get as over-protected as many people think.
2010-12 Patriots offense
Over the last 3 seasons (2010-12), the Patriots have enjoyed the best offensive peak ever by a team: 1588 points, breaking the record held by the 1999-01 Rams. In that span, Brady had a 109/24 TD-INT ratio, with an 1.4 INT% and the 2nd most passing yds with 13,962. Now that's "effective", right?
Referees "protecting" Brady
Over the same period, the Pats were beneficiated with only 5 roughing the passer penalties on their favor. That is the 4th (tied) least amount in the league. NFL teams averaged 3 per season from 2010-12, while we only had 5.
Breaking down the RTP penalties
How about those penalties? Many might argue that he gets his way at home, or any kind of ridiculous theory, but the fact is that out of those 5 flags, only 2 came at home. The 1st was on MIA Paul Soliai on 2010 in a blowout win by NE. It was already a blowout when they called. Bad call or not, it did nothing for Brady have a better game given that it was over by the time of the call.
The 2nd one was a little bit more controversial. It was on DAL Anthony Spencer on 2011 in a close win by NE. Many fans, and the media, argued about the severity of the ruling, but Spencer clearly hit Brady late on the play. In fact, Brady has been hit like this many times this season, and no referee threw a flag. So 24 home games, and only 2 RTP calls? That doesn't sound like home cooking.
QB hits
But let's get deeper. NE's opponents had a total of 190 QB hits (as FootballOutsiders.com explains: "These are plays knocking down the quarterback after a pass, not sacks.") in this 3-year span. While that is the 5th best total for a team (thanks O linemen), the relationship between the RTP penalties called, which could have been many if TB was actually "being protected by the refs", is very low. TB gets a RTP flag every 38 times he gets hit (statistically hit). That, Mr Fouts, is the 7th worst in the league. By this, we can safely say that TB is the 4th least referee-protected QB in the league in the past 3 years, just behind Tony Romo, Joe Flacco and Josh Freeman (the 3 remaining teams ahead of NE have had several QBs since 2010). If we add sacks, Brady gets a RTP flag every 54.8 hits+sacks, 8th worst.
2010-12 NE Offensive Line
And what about the O line? According to PFF, these were the pass block/protection rankings for our OL since 2010:
2010 - 10th
2011 - 8th
2012 - 16th
I'm not taking PFF as the last word, but they have a much less biased analysis than most of the "analysts" when it comes to football. As you see, we had an above average line over these 3 years, regarding pass blocking. Good, but not superb. Given that his criticism comes this year, I'm not sure what kind of games he watched. Not only our OL was average in PB, but we had only 2 OL healthy all year.
Conclusion
TB has guided the most prolific offense in any 3-year span ever, while not getting as much protection from the referees as everyone wants to think. Once again, BB, TB and NE haters fail to make a valid point in what they think is a good argument to pick on the Pats.
Fouts' isn't just wrong, he is completely lost. While he claims that TB "needs to be protected to succeed", it is completely the opposite:
In a 3-year span, Tom Brady led the best offense in the history of NFL, while being the 4th least referee-protected QB in the league, and behind a good-but-not-great pass blocking O line.
Next time, try to hate with actual facts that can back up your statements.
Well done. A total refute of Fouts.
It's sad that it can be that easy to refute someone who is well paid to publish nationally recognized writing. Yet another sad commentary on the industry itself.
You should email this to his boss and ask for his job
re: Dan Fouts: Tom Brady gets special treatment from refs
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Originally Posted by ausbacker
What is it about the playoffs that causes people to say incredibly stupid things?
If Fouts is going to make such a comment, I'd like him to reference the specific plays/moments where Brady was protected by the stripes and the outcome of said protection.
Maybe it is not about what you say, and more that you say something the may increase your profile and get free facetime....
This is the same method as our local contrarians.. Felger, Borges et al.
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re: Dan Fouts: Tom Brady gets special treatment from refs
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Originally Posted by DarrylS
Maybe it is not about what you say, and more that you say something the may increase your profile and get free facetime....
This is the same method as our local contrarians.. Felger, Borges et al.
Of that I have no doubt DarrylS. Is the trade off really worth it? I may hold a contentious position but I damn well wouldn't be pleased to have idiotic comments with no factual basis to them. Those sorts of things are best left to Tomase.
re: Dan Fouts: Tom Brady gets special treatment from refs
At 3:25pm yesterday on Sportsradio 980 in DC, Doc Walker casually stated that the Patriots had been found guilty by the league in 2007 for videotaping opponents' practices.
It is what it is. The Patriots never fight back.
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"They (Patriots) may be the greatest team ever" - Chris Mortenson, January 18, 2005 on espn.com
The man is a Black Hole in the knowledge department. Any facts or insights within his gravitational field are sucked into the void that is Dan Fouts at an increasing velocity until they no longer exist.
re: Dan Fouts: Tom Brady gets special treatment from refs
I just tweeted a link to josh24's post to the account of the new show CBS is attempting to launch he spewed this garbage on. Not that it will do any good. It's just a real pet peeve of mine when national football mediots/commentators spew ignorant, uninformed crap as if it's fact. And that they do so on shows that surround them with talent too equally uninformed to refute them.
That this prolific empty yardage stiff with a career .500 winning pct. and almost as many INT's as TD's was a first ballot HOF inductee is an indictment of the media driven process. It's no wonder so many deserving players never had a shot...
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