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Old 08-19-2008, 09:57 AM   #41
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It's always amusing how us fans fall for the newbie rookie QB playing against the September Home Depot employees in the 2nd half of the game. Flashback to a couple years ago where myriad posts speculated on how high a Day One draft pick we'd get for Cassel before his contract was up. Now it's O'Connell who 'looks' like an NFL QB, despite an absolutely horrendous decision that resulted in a turnover.
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It's always amusing how us fans fall for the newbie rookie QB playing against the September Home Depot employees in the 2nd half of the game. Flashback to a couple years ago where myriad posts speculated on how high a Day One draft pick we'd get for Cassel before his contract was up. Now it's O'Connell who 'looks' like an NFL QB, despite an absolutely horrendous decision that resulted in a turnover.
On a horrendous-decision-per-quarter basis, he's still well ahead of anybody Chicago can put on the field. And his poor decision making hasn't cost the Pats any playoff games (*cough* Favre *cough*).
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It's always amusing how us fans fall for the newbie rookie QB playing against the September Home Depot employees in the 2nd half of the game. Flashback to a couple years ago where myriad posts speculated on how high a Day One draft pick we'd get for Cassel before his contract was up. Now it's O'Connell who 'looks' like an NFL QB, despite an absolutely horrendous decision that resulted in a turnover.
Yeah, he made a mental error RIGHT AFTER an awesome slip.

After that he threw decisive passes or scrambled early. I don't think he's NFL calibre today. But think if th team will spend time on him instead of score run-ups (those are fun too) we can develop something there.
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Those were Tom Brady's words on WEEI yesterday.

When would Brady ever criticize a teammate though?
I'm shocked! I expected him to say " that guy blows, I can't believe how much better I am than him. We're really screwed if I don't play".

Why can't he just be honest, I'm sure the organization wouldn't mind.
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It's always amusing how us fans fall for the newbie rookie QB playing against the September Home Depot employees in the 2nd half of the game. Flashback to a couple years ago where myriad posts speculated on how high a Day One draft pick we'd get for Cassel before his contract was up. Now it's O'Connell who 'looks' like an NFL QB, despite an absolutely horrendous decision that resulted in a turnover.
There's plenty of truth to that, but yet...

I got on the early Cassel bandwagon way-back-when after seeing him in training camp. There were quite a few young QBs in camp, and Cassel looked head and shoulders above them all. He seemed to have "it" -- the presence and poise that form building blocks of an NFL QB. But in more recent practices and games, that seems to have vanished. Lack of confidence just oozes from him. He really did look promising as a late-round rookie, but for whatever reason he never got there.

So I don't think it's as simple as just falling in love with rookie potential. (I don't remember any such starry-eyed reactions to Kliff Kingsbury!)
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Here is another expert's opinion. From Mike Reiss' mail bag:




I'm taking a snippet, but you really should read the whole Reiss quote in Rob's post.

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Griff, the main thing I took from Cassel’s performance is that the offense doesn’t seem to respond to him. The quarterback is the primary catalyst to an offense, and I just don’t see the spark when Cassel is in the huddle.
http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal..._08/?page=full
I'm no football expert, but when you watch a sport for many years you see things that don't end up on the stat sheet.

Cassel doesn't want to be there. He doesn't want the pressure or the responsibility, he wants to get it over with so he can have his job back talking with his friends Tom and Josh on the sideline.

Gutz hasn't performed much better, but he is frustrated, he's slamming his helmet, taking deep breaths, forcing himself to focus to try and make his next series better.

I saw it in the Robb Johnson, Flutie competition. As much as they wanted to give Johnson the job, he didn't want it while Flutie wanted it desperately. You can't coach desire.

People don't develop desire once they've lost it. He might put on a good enough show to hold his job, but where does that leave us?

Cassel is done IMO, put a fork in him.
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He's right, Cassel is very decisive: too decisive in the sense that he locks onto one WR and forces the ball in every play...
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There's plenty of truth to that, but yet...

I got on the early Cassel bandwagon way-back-when after seeing him in training camp. There were quite a few young QBs in camp, and Cassel looked head and shoulders above them all. He seemed to have "it" -- the presence and poise that form building blocks of an NFL QB. But in more recent practices and games, that seems to have vanished. Lack of confidence just oozes from him. He really did look promising as a late-round rookie, but for whatever reason he never got there.

So I don't think it's as simple as just falling in love with rookie potential. (I don't remember any such starry-eyed reactions to Kliff Kingsbury!)
Kliffey was the exception that proves the rule.
Michael Bishop king of the 4th QTR pre-season comebacks had his cult of followers. Not as irrational as the Chad Jackson cult but rabid nonetheless.
Rohan Davey was popular for a while. He's the guy who started the fan talk about eventually trading the developing QB for a nice draft pick.
Then there was Cassel, our ticket to a high Day One pick.
Gutz has had his supporters. Many here blithely ignore Gutz's rather poor 2008 training camp performance because of the penchant for developing QBs.
And now it's the mick O'Connell who's a fav. Why? Because he's had the least opportunity to disappoint us. Don't get me wrong, I liked the draft pick. But once fans get to see considerable video of the guys, irrational expectations wane. Some day a developing QB really WILL emerge and confirm the expectations. Could even be O'Connell.
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Some day a developing QB really WILL emerge and confirm the expectations.
Do you want to have that line back?

There was a lowly sixth rounder.....
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Do you want to have that line back?

There was a lowly sixth rounder.....
I heard he went to school in the midwest but didn't see much playing time cause he was playing behind some other future NFL QBs.
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